Enchanted and Why Cynicism Kills Love | Sean Yeager

WEBVTT

00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.220
What for you was kind of the hardest part about

00:00:02.220 --> 00:00:06.339
growing up with a single mom? When my mom remarried,

00:00:06.360 --> 00:00:11.060
he was a great guy, but we just didn't connect

00:00:11.060 --> 00:00:14.220
like my friends did with their fathers. I think

00:00:14.220 --> 00:00:16.280
the most challenging thing for me was sporting

00:00:16.280 --> 00:00:20.379
events and just not having a dad there to support

00:00:20.379 --> 00:00:22.719
you, you know, which I would only really think

00:00:22.719 --> 00:00:24.640
about it when I'd see my other friends' fathers

00:00:24.640 --> 00:00:26.559
there at the games, you know, but they both...

00:00:26.809 --> 00:00:29.370
I worked at Disneyland for over almost 40 years.

00:00:29.570 --> 00:00:32.590
My papa was there actually before Disneyland

00:00:32.590 --> 00:00:35.890
opened. And then he was employed, you know, in

00:00:35.890 --> 00:00:37.649
construction and all that kind of stuff. And

00:00:37.649 --> 00:00:40.289
then he eventually, when the park opened, he

00:00:40.289 --> 00:00:42.469
worked on the train that goes around the park.

00:00:42.729 --> 00:00:45.429
He's just bitten this poison apple, right? And

00:00:45.429 --> 00:00:48.490
she's seemingly kind of dying in his arm. And

00:00:48.490 --> 00:00:51.310
he says, please don't leave. You know, and you

00:00:51.310 --> 00:00:53.829
just feel it in that moment. Yeah. Of like, he

00:00:53.829 --> 00:00:58.560
kind of gets who she is. and what that love means,

00:00:58.719 --> 00:01:01.140
right? It's so much easier to be kind than it

00:01:01.140 --> 00:01:05.379
is to nitpick or to judge others. You know, my

00:01:05.379 --> 00:01:07.319
last 20 years of my life have been a lot easier

00:01:07.319 --> 00:01:10.879
because I feel like I've let go of all that stuff.

00:01:11.959 --> 00:01:15.739
Welcome to Yes and Land, where we say yes to

00:01:15.739 --> 00:01:19.140
the reality of yesterday and today, and we say

00:01:19.140 --> 00:01:22.920
and to the possibility, growth, and imagination

00:01:22.920 --> 00:01:33.290
of tomorrow. Welcome to another episode of Yes

00:01:33.290 --> 00:01:35.230
and Land. We are very excited today. We're going

00:01:35.230 --> 00:01:37.049
to be talking about the power of relationships.

00:01:37.609 --> 00:01:40.530
We're talking about a lovely Disney movie, Enchanted,

00:01:40.689 --> 00:01:44.819
which is such a fun show. uh great lessons about

00:01:44.819 --> 00:01:47.079
relationships about love about what that means

00:01:47.079 --> 00:01:49.379
and we're talking with somebody who's got quite

00:01:49.379 --> 00:01:52.420
the heritage when it comes to disneyland and

00:01:52.420 --> 00:01:55.200
i'm very pumped to talk about disneyland all

00:01:55.200 --> 00:01:58.480
things disneyland from its inception y 'all better

00:01:58.480 --> 00:02:00.000
buckle up because it'll be some fun stuff today

00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:02.939
so welcome to the program sean yeager yeah thanks

00:02:02.939 --> 00:02:04.799
for having me ryan appreciate it very fun to

00:02:04.799 --> 00:02:06.980
have you today so uh to kind of give a quick

00:02:06.980 --> 00:02:10.479
overview maybe talk a little bit about what your

00:02:10.479 --> 00:02:13.180
current profession is. We talked a little bit

00:02:13.180 --> 00:02:14.979
in the pre -show about it, but kind of give us

00:02:14.979 --> 00:02:16.240
a little bit of lay of the land about what you're

00:02:16.240 --> 00:02:19.479
doing professionally right now. Well, I've been

00:02:19.479 --> 00:02:23.280
in education now, high school educator, health,

00:02:23.460 --> 00:02:26.780
fitness, and I was a high school basketball coach

00:02:26.780 --> 00:02:29.439
for 22 years. And now I've kind of switched over

00:02:29.439 --> 00:02:31.379
to the admin side, so now I'm an athletic director.

00:02:31.620 --> 00:02:34.759
So I'm still involved with athletics and just

00:02:34.759 --> 00:02:38.340
love being around people, especially our youth,

00:02:38.560 --> 00:02:41.460
and hopefully being a good example and a good

00:02:41.460 --> 00:02:43.620
role model. trying to be at least you know for

00:02:43.620 --> 00:02:46.360
today's youth just like a lot of the coaches

00:02:46.360 --> 00:02:48.439
and teachers i had when i was younger growing

00:02:48.439 --> 00:02:52.280
up so yeah great opportunity to have such a great

00:02:52.280 --> 00:02:57.219
influence on young people these days um i mentioned

00:02:57.219 --> 00:02:59.479
it before and i've mentioned this podcast many

00:02:59.479 --> 00:03:01.659
times but i come from a family of educators my

00:03:01.659 --> 00:03:03.840
dad was an elementary school teacher when i was

00:03:03.840 --> 00:03:06.039
growing up my mom was a lunch lady my sister

00:03:06.039 --> 00:03:07.900
was a teacher for a number of years and now she's

00:03:07.900 --> 00:03:11.139
a librarian uh down in saint george so it's like

00:03:11.139 --> 00:03:14.060
it's in my blood it's in my blood and then i'm

00:03:14.060 --> 00:03:15.479
the black sheep because i became an attorney

00:03:15.479 --> 00:03:18.159
and a divorce attorney at that so which will

00:03:18.159 --> 00:03:21.180
apply today to enchanted i had forgotten sean

00:03:21.180 --> 00:03:23.240
yeah i'm glad you turned me back on this movie

00:03:23.240 --> 00:03:24.990
because i forgot that one of the main characters

00:03:24.990 --> 00:03:27.590
is in fact a divorce attorney yeah kind of hilarious

00:03:27.590 --> 00:03:29.889
patrick and he was so good in this movie too

00:03:29.889 --> 00:03:31.210
and we will definitely talk a little bit more

00:03:31.210 --> 00:03:34.669
about that but let's now take us way back let's

00:03:34.669 --> 00:03:38.550
take us back to like young sean group in california

00:03:38.550 --> 00:03:40.150
right yep southern california that's where he

00:03:40.150 --> 00:03:42.030
grew up so talk to me a little bit about what

00:03:42.030 --> 00:03:44.389
uh growing up there was like i think you grew

00:03:44.389 --> 00:03:47.310
up maybe uh Maybe a little bit different than

00:03:47.310 --> 00:03:49.669
some folk. I think your mom was a single mom,

00:03:49.750 --> 00:03:52.090
right? Yes. Raising you as a single mom. So tell

00:03:52.090 --> 00:03:54.409
me a little bit what that was like. How many

00:03:54.409 --> 00:03:56.969
siblings did you have at that time? So I was

00:03:56.969 --> 00:04:00.550
an only child. My mom had me at a young age.

00:04:01.229 --> 00:04:03.370
And then she divorced from my biological father

00:04:03.370 --> 00:04:07.639
when I was six months old. Her future was kind

00:04:07.639 --> 00:04:09.560
of put on the back burner, which I'll always

00:04:09.560 --> 00:04:13.020
respect her and love her for that. And so fortunately,

00:04:13.199 --> 00:04:16.560
though, my biological grandparents from both

00:04:16.560 --> 00:04:20.279
sides were in California. And so they helped

00:04:20.279 --> 00:04:24.000
raise me. And they took turns babysitting and

00:04:24.000 --> 00:04:26.540
watching over me so my mom could hold down jobs.

00:04:26.579 --> 00:04:28.939
And then she started going to school and things

00:04:28.939 --> 00:04:34.389
like that. My grandparents were a huge, major

00:04:34.389 --> 00:04:37.730
impact on me growing up, especially as a child

00:04:37.730 --> 00:04:40.889
and in my teen years. Yeah, no doubt. Now, with

00:04:40.889 --> 00:04:44.230
those grandparents, they had some pretty special

00:04:44.230 --> 00:04:46.949
ties to Disneyland. Yes. Give us the breakdown

00:04:46.949 --> 00:04:49.009
here. I'm really excited about this. Give us

00:04:49.009 --> 00:04:52.769
the breakdown there. Well, you know, going through

00:04:52.769 --> 00:04:54.410
it, I don't think you appreciate it until maybe

00:04:54.410 --> 00:04:57.509
you get older, but my biological father's parents.

00:04:59.050 --> 00:05:01.490
They're originally from the South and so I referred

00:05:01.490 --> 00:05:03.990
to them as Mamaw and Papaw. So anybody listening

00:05:03.990 --> 00:05:06.009
that's from the South, they know what I'm talking

00:05:06.009 --> 00:05:09.649
about. So when I bring up their name, it's easy

00:05:09.649 --> 00:05:12.189
for me to say Mamaw or Papaw, but they both worked

00:05:12.189 --> 00:05:17.670
at Disneyland for over almost 40 years. My Papaw.

00:05:18.089 --> 00:05:20.189
was there actually before Disneyland opened.

00:05:20.470 --> 00:05:24.089
He was employed in construction and all that

00:05:24.089 --> 00:05:26.449
kind of stuff. And then he eventually, when the

00:05:26.449 --> 00:05:29.009
park opened, he worked on the train that goes

00:05:29.009 --> 00:05:33.149
around the park. And he loved it. That was his

00:05:33.149 --> 00:05:36.009
job. That was his career. And my mamaw worked

00:05:36.009 --> 00:05:39.569
in the china shop on Main Street. And again,

00:05:39.709 --> 00:05:42.889
I've been to Disneyland so many times growing

00:05:42.889 --> 00:05:46.829
up as a kid. I can't even... count but uh huge

00:05:46.829 --> 00:05:50.449
impact uh huge influence in disneyland sometimes

00:05:50.449 --> 00:05:53.069
as i got older old enough to kind of run around

00:05:53.069 --> 00:05:56.310
on my own with my friends disneyland became my

00:05:56.310 --> 00:06:00.149
my babysitter you know yeah in a in a funny way

00:06:00.149 --> 00:06:03.269
but yeah so lots of disney yeah stuff you know

00:06:03.269 --> 00:06:07.230
so uh you said your papa papa yep he was in construction

00:06:07.230 --> 00:06:09.370
did he help did he work on the construction of

00:06:09.370 --> 00:06:11.870
disneyland itself oh yeah which is amazing i

00:06:11.870 --> 00:06:14.439
mean so so he's there during the time where Um,

00:06:14.779 --> 00:06:17.620
if, if memory serves, it was a year from the

00:06:17.620 --> 00:06:20.019
time that they started and when Walt had announced

00:06:20.019 --> 00:06:22.379
that they were going to open and somehow they

00:06:22.379 --> 00:06:24.420
made that happen in a year, which is just kind

00:06:24.420 --> 00:06:27.259
of wild. Yeah. Right. Well, and it's funny because,

00:06:27.300 --> 00:06:30.160
uh, as I mentioned earlier, I was an educator

00:06:30.160 --> 00:06:32.600
and one of my health lessons, we talk about resilience.

00:06:33.279 --> 00:06:35.879
Well, what better example than Walt Disney, right?

00:06:35.980 --> 00:06:38.500
I mean, and I'm sure you know, um, cause I know

00:06:38.500 --> 00:06:43.180
you're a huge Disney buff. Um, he, he. was going

00:06:43.180 --> 00:06:45.620
to make it happen. He had the vision and I think

00:06:45.620 --> 00:06:49.060
he was turned down over 300 times. And to me,

00:06:49.060 --> 00:06:52.180
if I get turned down, I have this idea. And if

00:06:52.180 --> 00:06:53.819
people look at me and say, you're crazy. And

00:06:53.819 --> 00:06:56.100
so I'd always tell my kids, imagine if I opened

00:06:56.100 --> 00:06:58.500
a park. I wanted to open a park. And my pitch

00:06:58.500 --> 00:07:02.000
to people, to investors was, I want to open this

00:07:02.000 --> 00:07:07.009
park. Eagle Mountain, and I want the main character

00:07:07.009 --> 00:07:10.610
to be, I don't know, a donkey, and I'm going

00:07:10.610 --> 00:07:13.069
to call it Jaegerland. I mean, it sounds silly,

00:07:13.209 --> 00:07:16.629
right? But we talk about that, how silly it must

00:07:16.629 --> 00:07:19.649
have sounded back in the 50s, maybe late 40s

00:07:19.649 --> 00:07:21.209
when Walt was really putting this all together.

00:07:22.389 --> 00:07:24.949
I'm going to open a park in these orange groves

00:07:24.949 --> 00:07:27.350
in Anaheim, and I'm going to call it Disneyland.

00:07:27.709 --> 00:07:30.750
I mean, that's probably why he had over 300 rejections.

00:07:32.250 --> 00:07:34.389
Yeah, here we are. And he had to risk a lot because,

00:07:34.449 --> 00:07:39.089
you know, when he initially had Mickey Mouse

00:07:39.089 --> 00:07:41.170
really start taking off, which was not the first

00:07:41.170 --> 00:07:42.750
character he had, right? His first character

00:07:42.750 --> 00:07:44.430
kind of got stolen away from him. But then he

00:07:44.430 --> 00:07:46.569
goes with Mickey and then he has all the success.

00:07:46.790 --> 00:07:50.350
Finally, after really hard times doing it, has

00:07:50.350 --> 00:07:52.329
a lot of success, but puts it all on the line.

00:07:52.370 --> 00:07:54.209
Right. Like all on the line to do this Disneyland

00:07:54.209 --> 00:07:56.689
thing. And you're right. Claire and the Orange

00:07:56.689 --> 00:07:58.810
Grows in Anaheim, which at the time was like.

00:07:59.399 --> 00:08:01.279
kind of middle of nowhere it's kind of like oh

00:08:01.279 --> 00:08:02.939
there's this open space there's these orange

00:08:02.939 --> 00:08:05.360
groves sure nobody's gonna come why not there

00:08:05.360 --> 00:08:08.139
let's let's do it there and decides to do it

00:08:08.139 --> 00:08:12.620
and your uh your papa gets to be a part of building

00:08:12.620 --> 00:08:15.079
disneyland did he ever tell you any stories about

00:08:15.079 --> 00:08:16.779
what it was like to build it or what kind of

00:08:16.779 --> 00:08:19.339
things he did when they were building it um the

00:08:19.339 --> 00:08:21.699
only thing i remember when we talked about specifically

00:08:21.699 --> 00:08:27.529
um because he passed away you know I wish I'd

00:08:27.529 --> 00:08:29.649
got to know him more as a young adult. Sure.

00:08:29.810 --> 00:08:32.570
But I just remember that there was – he would

00:08:32.570 --> 00:08:36.409
talk about the days being long. Oh, yeah. But

00:08:36.409 --> 00:08:40.850
anything he said and Mamaw ever said about Walt

00:08:40.850 --> 00:08:44.450
Disney was always positive. Like he – never anything

00:08:44.450 --> 00:08:47.289
negative to say. He would interact and engage

00:08:47.289 --> 00:08:50.779
with everyone. Nobody felt like – they were beneath

00:08:50.779 --> 00:08:53.419
them and uh just positive stories i remember

00:08:53.419 --> 00:08:55.399
him saying it was just a lot of work i mean yeah

00:08:55.399 --> 00:08:58.620
and and a lot of changes like they'd start with

00:08:58.620 --> 00:09:00.019
something and change into something else but

00:09:00.019 --> 00:09:02.799
that's i wish i would love to be able to sit

00:09:02.799 --> 00:09:04.740
down with them now sure you know and have those

00:09:04.740 --> 00:09:07.620
conversations one of the things that i love um

00:09:07.620 --> 00:09:11.120
that um i've heard that walt did and implemented

00:09:11.120 --> 00:09:12.940
and what they still do today is you just everybody

00:09:12.940 --> 00:09:15.730
was their first name yeah that that it never

00:09:15.730 --> 00:09:18.830
was never in mr disney it was never like titles

00:09:18.830 --> 00:09:21.350
for people was just people's first names um he

00:09:21.350 --> 00:09:22.750
would always tell people to call him walt and

00:09:22.750 --> 00:09:25.070
he and so even now that's why they all have it's

00:09:25.070 --> 00:09:26.409
just the first name on there they don't have

00:09:26.409 --> 00:09:28.190
last names on any of the tags and name badges

00:09:28.190 --> 00:09:30.889
because it's that more personal relationship

00:09:30.889 --> 00:09:34.909
right that he would want to create and that he

00:09:34.909 --> 00:09:37.529
helped create for others because i do think it's

00:09:37.529 --> 00:09:39.470
i mean i think it's so unique that what you're

00:09:39.470 --> 00:09:41.590
saying is like they they're he's working long

00:09:41.590 --> 00:09:44.590
hours it's not easy It's a vision that some people

00:09:44.590 --> 00:09:47.509
didn't believe in. And yet your dad or your grandpa,

00:09:47.570 --> 00:09:50.250
your papa did it and then stayed working for

00:09:50.250 --> 00:09:53.669
the company for many, many years. And so it must

00:09:53.669 --> 00:09:55.830
have been a great appreciation for what the vision

00:09:55.830 --> 00:09:59.330
was of what Disneyland represented, what it meant

00:09:59.330 --> 00:10:01.690
to people. Yeah. I mean, you think about, like

00:10:01.690 --> 00:10:04.970
you said, relationships. He people he made people

00:10:04.970 --> 00:10:08.009
feel valued. And that's, I think, was I would

00:10:08.009 --> 00:10:09.889
assume was part of his vision with the park.

00:10:09.929 --> 00:10:12.409
When people go there, they want to feel. special

00:10:12.409 --> 00:10:14.710
like it's a special place you know and i mean

00:10:14.710 --> 00:10:18.149
the employees you know anybody's been to disneyland

00:10:18.149 --> 00:10:20.309
you don't see a disgruntled employee it's just

00:10:20.309 --> 00:10:23.490
it's just not allowed but it's but i in the same

00:10:23.490 --> 00:10:25.750
sense it's not like people are holding back they're

00:10:25.750 --> 00:10:28.970
not liking their job people genuinely enjoy working

00:10:28.970 --> 00:10:31.629
there and that's why my my grandparents my mom

00:10:31.629 --> 00:10:34.350
papa they they worked there till the day they

00:10:34.350 --> 00:10:36.490
retired i mean they love they love disneyland

00:10:36.490 --> 00:10:38.309
it's part like a part of who i am it's part of

00:10:38.309 --> 00:10:41.320
who they were and then outside of it They were

00:10:41.320 --> 00:10:43.799
very proud, you know, when people, and I was

00:10:43.799 --> 00:10:45.980
proud as a grandchild, you know, you know, my

00:10:45.980 --> 00:10:48.320
grandma, my mom, I would say my mom and papa

00:10:48.320 --> 00:10:51.740
in California didn't, you know, they work at

00:10:51.740 --> 00:10:53.360
Disneyland, but you know, you have a lot of friends

00:10:53.360 --> 00:10:54.960
when your grandparents work at Disneyland. So

00:10:54.960 --> 00:10:58.539
it was, it was great, but they loved their jobs

00:10:58.539 --> 00:11:02.120
and it carried over and the relationships are

00:11:02.120 --> 00:11:05.480
great. And, and another, when we're talking about,

00:11:05.519 --> 00:11:07.519
you know, themes, you know, about what we're

00:11:07.519 --> 00:11:10.139
talking about, unconditional love. yeah you know

00:11:10.139 --> 00:11:12.940
i mean they you feel love when you're at disneyland

00:11:12.940 --> 00:11:14.620
that's why everybody wants to go there because

00:11:14.620 --> 00:11:16.679
all everything they hear about is so positive

00:11:16.679 --> 00:11:19.600
yeah and and you know what i think is also really

00:11:19.600 --> 00:11:22.639
unique here is your papa i think you said he

00:11:22.639 --> 00:11:27.460
um ran the steam engine train like that i think

00:11:27.460 --> 00:11:30.019
i would guess that had to be a pretty prominent

00:11:30.019 --> 00:11:33.919
position because walt loved trains like he was

00:11:33.919 --> 00:11:37.059
obsessed with trains he had this little train

00:11:37.059 --> 00:11:39.340
thing at his house and so when he was doing disneyland

00:11:39.340 --> 00:11:41.720
having a train was a non -negotiable right had

00:11:41.720 --> 00:11:43.940
a great love for trains and so the fact that

00:11:43.940 --> 00:11:46.960
that that your papa got to run the train man

00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:49.340
he had a lot of trust from walt himself to be

00:11:49.340 --> 00:11:50.779
able to do that and do that for as long as he

00:11:50.779 --> 00:11:53.940
did yeah yeah they did and and he like i said

00:11:53.940 --> 00:11:56.019
he was proud and and i know we had mentioned

00:11:56.019 --> 00:12:00.259
we talked earlier um he would let When my friends,

00:12:00.360 --> 00:12:02.440
especially birthday parties, Papaw would let

00:12:02.440 --> 00:12:05.860
us sit up in the front and let us – we just basically

00:12:05.860 --> 00:12:08.139
held a valve that made sure that it wasn't –

00:12:08.139 --> 00:12:09.879
we weren't doing anything wrong. But I just remember

00:12:09.879 --> 00:12:12.879
it was the opposite. If you wanted to slow down,

00:12:13.080 --> 00:12:15.120
you'd lift the lever a little bit up. And if

00:12:15.120 --> 00:12:16.879
you want to speed up, you'd lift – you'd pull

00:12:16.879 --> 00:12:19.240
it down. And they'd always bring it in to the

00:12:19.240 --> 00:12:22.539
stop at each place around the park. But I just

00:12:22.539 --> 00:12:25.139
– I still remember the smell of the steam engines.

00:12:25.240 --> 00:12:27.460
And then when we went a couple years ago – they

00:12:27.460 --> 00:12:29.600
went away with that. And so I missed that smell,

00:12:29.700 --> 00:12:31.620
but I get it, you know, environmentally wise

00:12:31.620 --> 00:12:34.379
and all that. But it was, it was, it was awesome.

00:12:34.440 --> 00:12:37.559
I loved it. Did you ever get to like, Oh yes.

00:12:37.700 --> 00:12:40.039
Oh yeah. Right. Cause you have to do it right

00:12:40.039 --> 00:12:42.259
when you're coming into us. Yeah. And so, but

00:12:42.259 --> 00:12:44.159
he would tell us when to do it. Like we couldn't

00:12:44.159 --> 00:12:46.200
just sit there and just, you know, sure. Cling

00:12:46.200 --> 00:12:47.860
away. Do it the right time. Yeah. But you got

00:12:47.860 --> 00:12:50.240
to do that. No, it was great. You know, and then.

00:12:50.889 --> 00:12:52.389
Obviously, you know, your friends, you go back

00:12:52.389 --> 00:12:54.769
home and you're talking about it. And then it

00:12:54.769 --> 00:12:57.389
was fun. It makes you pretty popular as a kid,

00:12:57.470 --> 00:12:59.850
that's for sure. But I loved it. I loved it.

00:13:00.090 --> 00:13:03.529
And then your mama, she worked at the China shop,

00:13:03.649 --> 00:13:07.389
I think you had mentioned. Yeah. On Main Street,

00:13:07.490 --> 00:13:10.870
right? On Main Street. Every time I go in there,

00:13:10.929 --> 00:13:13.690
I still get emotional. I just remember that,

00:13:13.730 --> 00:13:17.029
you know. And she worked with this gal named

00:13:17.029 --> 00:13:19.549
Ruby. I'll never forget Ruby. And she was the

00:13:19.549 --> 00:13:21.129
kind of gal that would come up, you know, squeeze

00:13:21.129 --> 00:13:23.129
your cheeks and give you those wet smooches and

00:13:23.129 --> 00:13:26.690
all that kind of stuff. But, you know, I just

00:13:26.690 --> 00:13:28.789
remember the wax paper. We were in there a couple

00:13:28.789 --> 00:13:30.950
of years ago. And I saw the workers because they

00:13:30.950 --> 00:13:33.129
dress, you know, with that, I don't know, early

00:13:33.129 --> 00:13:36.549
1900s attire or whatever, you know. And the barbershop

00:13:36.549 --> 00:13:39.909
quartets would come in and sing. But I remember

00:13:39.909 --> 00:13:41.850
they'd pull out the wax paper and wrap up all,

00:13:41.889 --> 00:13:44.750
you know, the Disney. pluto mugs or whatever

00:13:44.750 --> 00:13:48.029
that you're you're purchasing and uh it just

00:13:48.029 --> 00:13:50.370
it hasn't the interior hasn't really changed

00:13:50.370 --> 00:13:53.190
much and that's what i think is so cool because

00:13:53.190 --> 00:13:56.210
i can walk in there and immediately just have

00:13:56.210 --> 00:13:59.269
all these flashbacks just positive memories and

00:13:59.269 --> 00:14:01.750
and i think what's so great about the way that

00:14:01.750 --> 00:14:04.629
that he created disneyland and crafted it is

00:14:04.629 --> 00:14:08.490
that um You get that experience when you've been

00:14:08.490 --> 00:14:11.269
there before. So when I'm walking in now, because

00:14:11.269 --> 00:14:13.690
I've been going since I was four years old, you're

00:14:13.690 --> 00:14:15.929
walking down Main Street and you do just, it

00:14:15.929 --> 00:14:17.990
just takes you back. Oh, yeah. It just takes

00:14:17.990 --> 00:14:20.830
you back. When you have that style from the early

00:14:20.830 --> 00:14:24.230
1900s that was kind of Missouri where he grew

00:14:24.230 --> 00:14:26.590
up and also kind of Colorado, which is one of

00:14:26.590 --> 00:14:28.649
the guys that kind of helped design it. But there's

00:14:28.649 --> 00:14:30.250
this kind of place that just takes you back in

00:14:30.250 --> 00:14:32.600
time. Yeah. You know? that just transports you

00:14:32.600 --> 00:14:35.200
as you walk through Main Street. And then, like

00:14:35.200 --> 00:14:37.779
you said, and then every land you go into, and

00:14:37.779 --> 00:14:40.340
again, people listening who visited, you feel

00:14:40.340 --> 00:14:43.299
like you're in a different, you know, definitely

00:14:43.299 --> 00:14:44.759
a different part of the world. I mean, even the

00:14:44.759 --> 00:14:47.740
new Star Wars land is phenomenal. I love that.

00:14:47.879 --> 00:14:51.299
And I've only been to that twice and love that.

00:14:52.360 --> 00:14:55.279
But yeah, that Main Street just has that old

00:14:55.279 --> 00:14:57.500
feel and they have the penny arcades and all

00:14:57.500 --> 00:14:58.879
that kind of stuff. And it's just, you know,

00:14:58.899 --> 00:15:01.899
and if you notice though, it's never dirty i

00:15:01.899 --> 00:15:04.220
mean if somebody spills some popcorn that thing's

00:15:04.220 --> 00:15:06.860
scooped up in two or three minutes you know and

00:15:06.860 --> 00:15:09.639
it's definitely a contrast you see with other

00:15:09.639 --> 00:15:13.779
theme parks out there so my wife and i had gone

00:15:13.779 --> 00:15:16.159
to uh san antonio for a business trip of mine

00:15:16.159 --> 00:15:19.460
and we were uh our hotel was right next to six

00:15:19.460 --> 00:15:22.559
flags in san antonio they're like hey six flags

00:15:22.559 --> 00:15:25.059
we got you know an open afternoon we're gonna

00:15:25.059 --> 00:15:30.049
go there And, oh yeah, it was, I mean, Six Flags

00:15:30.049 --> 00:15:33.129
has some good roller coasters. They do. But it

00:15:33.129 --> 00:15:35.950
is not clean like Disneyland. The staff is not

00:15:35.950 --> 00:15:38.889
friendly like they are. The whole process just

00:15:38.889 --> 00:15:42.490
doesn't work the same. Disney just does things

00:15:42.490 --> 00:15:45.730
different. It's an attention to detail that's

00:15:45.730 --> 00:15:48.250
like no other amusement park. And I've been to

00:15:48.250 --> 00:15:52.029
the Six Flags in California. I've been to a lot

00:15:52.029 --> 00:15:54.129
of amusement parks. And Lagoon's a great place

00:15:54.129 --> 00:15:56.710
to go visit. But the attention to detail in Disneyland

00:15:56.710 --> 00:16:00.960
is unreal. There's lots of hidden Easter eggs,

00:16:01.019 --> 00:16:04.639
you know, I'm sure. Oh, yeah. And I finally saw

00:16:04.639 --> 00:16:06.759
the Eeyore sign because I do remember when I

00:16:06.759 --> 00:16:08.960
was younger, the parking lot was, you know, you'd

00:16:08.960 --> 00:16:13.019
park in, you know, D for Dumbo and G for Goofy

00:16:13.019 --> 00:16:15.080
because it'd be easy to forget where you parked

00:16:15.080 --> 00:16:17.120
your car with all the cars there. But I guess

00:16:17.120 --> 00:16:19.860
they built the Indiana Jones ride around the

00:16:19.860 --> 00:16:23.519
Eeyore sign. And so when you go into that room

00:16:23.519 --> 00:16:27.740
with the old projectors playing. Yeah. And we

00:16:27.740 --> 00:16:29.740
couldn't. So I had to finally give in and ask

00:16:29.740 --> 00:16:31.580
one of the employees there, but you can look

00:16:31.580 --> 00:16:33.580
back and you can see it, but they built around

00:16:33.580 --> 00:16:35.919
it. No kidding. Which is just little cool things

00:16:35.919 --> 00:16:38.860
like that. I did not know that. Oh, I can't wait

00:16:38.860 --> 00:16:40.620
to go back now. Yeah. You know, except when you

00:16:40.620 --> 00:16:42.559
look for it. So I want to, next time we go, I'm

00:16:42.559 --> 00:16:44.909
going to. I want to go online and look. Maybe

00:16:44.909 --> 00:16:46.409
it would be great just to make a day of looking

00:16:46.409 --> 00:16:48.710
for Easter eggs, you know. Yeah. I mean, they've

00:16:48.710 --> 00:16:50.509
got tons of them. I've been on that Indiana Jones

00:16:50.509 --> 00:16:53.269
ride many a time. So I can't wait to go back

00:16:53.269 --> 00:16:55.730
and try that one out. They did a very good job

00:16:55.730 --> 00:16:58.470
with the queue for that ride. And back when they

00:16:58.470 --> 00:17:00.789
first made it. Yeah, actually, I had to wait

00:17:00.789 --> 00:17:02.090
through that entire queue. Now, with the way

00:17:02.090 --> 00:17:03.429
they do the Lightning Lane, you end up walking

00:17:03.429 --> 00:17:05.410
past some of the fun stuff. They have a lot of

00:17:05.410 --> 00:17:07.869
it, but still a great queue leading up to that

00:17:07.869 --> 00:17:10.609
ride. Yeah. I mean, I think you need, for the

00:17:10.609 --> 00:17:12.730
amount of people that go there now and all that,

00:17:12.769 --> 00:17:17.660
you really have to plot out your day. He was

00:17:17.660 --> 00:17:20.500
almost like our tour guide because you can only

00:17:20.500 --> 00:17:22.759
buy some of those tickets, those lightning tickets

00:17:22.759 --> 00:17:25.240
or whatever they call them, the fast passes at

00:17:25.240 --> 00:17:27.599
certain times. So it's like you have to coordinate

00:17:27.599 --> 00:17:30.200
your day and be efficient. Otherwise, you can't

00:17:30.200 --> 00:17:32.319
see everything, especially with two parks now.

00:17:32.359 --> 00:17:34.779
You can't see everything unless you go for four

00:17:34.779 --> 00:17:37.079
days if you really want to see everything and

00:17:37.079 --> 00:17:39.240
enjoy it. Especially if you want to see some

00:17:39.240 --> 00:17:41.799
of the shows because there's some really fun

00:17:41.799 --> 00:17:45.400
shows. I think you mentioned – do you have a

00:17:45.400 --> 00:17:47.569
granddaughter? Or a grandchild? Yep. I have a

00:17:47.569 --> 00:17:49.670
granddaughter, yes. And I have a daughter. I

00:17:49.670 --> 00:17:51.509
mean, all our kids, we took them to the FBI.

00:17:51.509 --> 00:17:53.529
I have a granddaughter. She's one. So she's a

00:17:53.529 --> 00:17:54.970
couple years away. She's a couple years away.

00:17:55.029 --> 00:17:56.650
But we'll be doing it again. Have you guys ever

00:17:56.650 --> 00:17:58.950
gone to the Royal Theater there? I don't think

00:17:58.950 --> 00:18:03.559
so. So as you're walking up to... the castle

00:18:03.559 --> 00:18:06.119
um the little roundabout there it's right off

00:18:06.119 --> 00:18:08.000
to your left and there's this very small little

00:18:08.000 --> 00:18:09.400
theater they do there and they call it the royal

00:18:09.400 --> 00:18:12.240
theater here the tiki room it it's a little bit

00:18:12.240 --> 00:18:14.640
a little bit closer to the castle okay okay because

00:18:14.640 --> 00:18:17.200
it is right next to the castle okay and and it

00:18:17.200 --> 00:18:21.599
only seats maybe 50 people total uh but it's

00:18:21.599 --> 00:18:25.789
these cute little shows they do of tangled And

00:18:25.789 --> 00:18:29.130
then Beauty and the Beast. And it's really catered

00:18:29.130 --> 00:18:31.529
to like the littles, which is so fun. I've got

00:18:31.529 --> 00:18:34.309
two little girls, so we love going to it. And

00:18:34.309 --> 00:18:36.470
it's these two guys who are like kind of comedians

00:18:36.470 --> 00:18:37.769
and they kind of play all the parts and then

00:18:37.769 --> 00:18:39.650
they have the princess. So Rapunzel's there and

00:18:39.650 --> 00:18:41.720
then they play all the other roles. And then

00:18:41.720 --> 00:18:43.240
they have Belle there, and they play all day

00:18:43.240 --> 00:18:45.019
long. It's a little stage. It's a tiny little

00:18:45.019 --> 00:18:47.579
thing, but it's the cutest thing to do for little.

00:18:47.700 --> 00:18:50.500
So when your granddaughter's old enough and you

00:18:50.500 --> 00:18:52.079
take her there, you've got to go to the Royal

00:18:52.079 --> 00:18:54.160
Theater. I always tell people, my daughters have

00:18:54.160 --> 00:18:55.900
loved it for the last few years when we've taken

00:18:55.900 --> 00:18:58.099
them. It's so cute. Write that down. Such a nice

00:18:58.099 --> 00:19:00.460
job. But there's so many things to do, right?

00:19:00.519 --> 00:19:02.240
Like you're saying, you can go there for a number

00:19:02.240 --> 00:19:04.640
of days and still not get everything in because

00:19:04.640 --> 00:19:08.339
there's so much to see and so much to do. That's

00:19:08.339 --> 00:19:10.259
what I loved about it. Again, I'm old enough.

00:19:11.180 --> 00:19:14.099
Any old people listening will remember the A,

00:19:14.200 --> 00:19:16.819
B, C, D, E tickets. And I think the E tickets

00:19:16.819 --> 00:19:18.859
were the one for the cool rides, the Haunted

00:19:18.859 --> 00:19:22.000
Mansion. Space Mountain came out when I was a

00:19:22.000 --> 00:19:23.980
teenager. And I may have mentioned to you that

00:19:23.980 --> 00:19:27.519
that was like such a big deal. I remember that

00:19:27.519 --> 00:19:29.519
was just like the talk of the town, Space Mountain,

00:19:29.599 --> 00:19:31.660
Space Mountain. Because Matterhorn was kind of

00:19:31.660 --> 00:19:34.880
there to throw a ride. But it's just – there's

00:19:34.880 --> 00:19:37.660
just so much to do. Even back then when it was

00:19:37.660 --> 00:19:41.170
– the park was even smaller. So it's hard to

00:19:41.170 --> 00:19:42.869
get to everything. And obviously, with lots of

00:19:42.869 --> 00:19:45.690
people there, that weighs in. Now, with Space

00:19:45.690 --> 00:19:48.190
Mountain, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't

00:19:48.190 --> 00:19:50.349
you sometimes get to get in a little bit early

00:19:50.349 --> 00:19:52.450
and go hit up Space Mountain? Tell that story.

00:19:52.910 --> 00:19:55.369
Yeah. So, you know, where they do the rope drop,

00:19:55.509 --> 00:19:58.390
it's right there by the China shop. So they want

00:19:58.390 --> 00:20:00.029
you to get in there. Of course, it's designed

00:20:00.029 --> 00:20:02.309
also where everybody buys everything when they're

00:20:02.309 --> 00:20:04.730
walking out. But a lot of people, you know, we're

00:20:04.730 --> 00:20:06.690
going to. park opens let's say they drop the

00:20:06.690 --> 00:20:08.750
rope at nine but they'll let people in maybe

00:20:08.750 --> 00:20:10.430
at eight i'm guessing i don't remember exactly

00:20:10.430 --> 00:20:12.930
but so for an hour they're right there on main

00:20:12.930 --> 00:20:15.450
street waiting for the rope to drop but mama

00:20:15.450 --> 00:20:19.549
would take us through the side um there's a little

00:20:19.549 --> 00:20:21.589
there's a door it's still there because i saw

00:20:21.589 --> 00:20:24.369
it the last time we went but they keep it shut

00:20:24.369 --> 00:20:27.069
for the rope drop she would open it and we she'd

00:20:27.069 --> 00:20:29.329
send us and we just fly out of there hang a right

00:20:29.329 --> 00:20:31.490
and go down the space mountain and they would

00:20:31.490 --> 00:20:33.369
do i think they called them dry runs you know

00:20:33.369 --> 00:20:35.529
where they're getting the you know, or whatever.

00:20:35.630 --> 00:20:38.230
And we'd run in there. And like I said, they

00:20:38.230 --> 00:20:41.190
saw me a lot, especially in, you know, my early

00:20:41.190 --> 00:20:44.089
teens and all that. And we'd go in there and

00:20:44.089 --> 00:20:46.230
the workers would let us get on for the dry runs.

00:20:46.349 --> 00:20:48.589
And we'd go through it a couple of times. We'd

00:20:48.589 --> 00:20:50.650
go through it when the lights were on, which

00:20:50.650 --> 00:20:53.069
was real trippy. Yeah. But then, you know, the

00:20:53.069 --> 00:20:55.910
lights are off and then we'd come back in and,

00:20:55.970 --> 00:20:58.539
you know. The rope still hasn't dropped. The

00:20:58.539 --> 00:20:59.819
people haven't got there yet. And they'd be like,

00:20:59.839 --> 00:21:00.940
you guys want to go again? And we'd be like,

00:21:01.099 --> 00:21:03.299
so we wouldn't even get out. We'd get to go again.

00:21:03.519 --> 00:21:05.680
And we thought it was so cool. Funny enough,

00:21:05.880 --> 00:21:08.619
I remember there were multiple times where we'd

00:21:08.619 --> 00:21:12.440
go on it four or five times in a row or maybe

00:21:12.440 --> 00:21:15.839
it wasn't busy yet. But the last time I went

00:21:15.839 --> 00:21:18.910
on it. I got off and you asked my wife, I needed

00:21:18.910 --> 00:21:21.970
like a 30 minute break. I'm like, Holy cow. How

00:21:21.970 --> 00:21:24.789
did I, if I did that now, it'd be crazy. I can

00:21:24.789 --> 00:21:26.849
really take it out of you. Yeah. But it felt

00:21:26.849 --> 00:21:28.369
special, you know, ma 'am, I had some perks,

00:21:28.470 --> 00:21:30.710
you know, so of course. And, uh, and some of

00:21:30.710 --> 00:21:32.710
the workers, you kind of recognize them and they

00:21:32.710 --> 00:21:34.849
recognize you. So it was pretty cool. Yeah. That's

00:21:34.849 --> 00:21:40.309
awesome. What, what did you learn as a kid? And

00:21:40.309 --> 00:21:42.789
then as a young man growing up about relationships

00:21:42.789 --> 00:21:47.450
from. your mom and from your mamma and papa and

00:21:47.450 --> 00:21:49.450
from your grandparents as they all kind of like

00:21:49.450 --> 00:21:52.349
as a village, so to speak, kind of raised you.

00:21:52.410 --> 00:21:53.730
What did you learn about relationships? What

00:21:53.730 --> 00:21:56.490
do they teach you about that? I mentioned it

00:21:56.490 --> 00:21:58.589
earlier. I think one of the big things is just

00:21:58.589 --> 00:22:01.369
unconditional love, kindness. And, you know,

00:22:01.390 --> 00:22:04.309
I don't claim to be perfect, but I added, but

00:22:04.309 --> 00:22:08.029
I know how important it is because that's something,

00:22:08.190 --> 00:22:14.500
you know, that mamma, especially, I mean, We

00:22:14.500 --> 00:22:18.559
got in trouble in the park sometimes. We'd do

00:22:18.559 --> 00:22:20.759
things we shouldn't be doing, jumping boats on

00:22:20.759 --> 00:22:22.940
one of the old boat rides. A friend of mine knocked

00:22:22.940 --> 00:22:27.019
the apple off the witch's hand in Snow White.

00:22:27.859 --> 00:22:31.700
And there's cameras. They see everything. I don't

00:22:31.700 --> 00:22:34.660
suggest getting up and walking off the moving

00:22:34.660 --> 00:22:36.539
parts of the Haunted Mansion. That's not good.

00:22:39.019 --> 00:22:41.859
And I guess, you know, I think just being able

00:22:41.859 --> 00:22:45.559
to forgive, unconditional love, it was huge.

00:22:45.819 --> 00:22:48.700
And just treating everyone with respect, you

00:22:48.700 --> 00:22:51.480
know. I think that's what I love about Disneyland.

00:22:51.640 --> 00:22:53.640
Anybody who goes there, the workers there, you

00:22:53.640 --> 00:22:56.460
see it, you know. And I think a lot of people,

00:22:56.640 --> 00:22:59.359
I mean, that's what I wanted. My mom worked there

00:22:59.359 --> 00:23:02.660
for a time. My biological father did and two

00:23:02.660 --> 00:23:07.720
of my uncles. And they loved it. My mom worked

00:23:07.720 --> 00:23:10.920
the Matterhorn. She always has fun stories to

00:23:10.920 --> 00:23:13.900
tell. And then the Golden Horseshoe, I think

00:23:13.900 --> 00:23:15.619
I told you my uncle worked there. And he's a

00:23:15.619 --> 00:23:18.559
full -fledged cowboy now up in western Montana,

00:23:18.819 --> 00:23:21.700
up near Whitefish, Calisper area, if you've ever

00:23:21.700 --> 00:23:23.420
been up there. And that's the place to be if

00:23:23.420 --> 00:23:25.839
you're a cowboy. And I always – I should ask

00:23:25.839 --> 00:23:27.980
him, like, did working there kind of inspire

00:23:27.980 --> 00:23:32.019
you to – because it had that western theme. So,

00:23:32.039 --> 00:23:36.420
yeah. But I think just – The value of unconditional

00:23:36.420 --> 00:23:39.579
love and just treating people with kindness.

00:23:39.799 --> 00:23:43.359
Yeah, I love that. Besides this podcast, I actually

00:23:43.359 --> 00:23:46.359
own a law firm, RCG Law Group. And I'll be honest,

00:23:46.519 --> 00:23:48.859
most people think only about calling a lawyer

00:23:48.859 --> 00:23:51.859
when something has gone sideways already. We'd

00:23:51.859 --> 00:23:54.079
rather you know who we are before that happens.

00:23:54.380 --> 00:23:58.119
So if you ever need us, we're right here. What

00:23:58.119 --> 00:24:01.640
for you was kind of the hardest part about growing

00:24:01.640 --> 00:24:05.220
up with a single mom? I think, you know, not

00:24:05.220 --> 00:24:09.660
having the male adult role model. I mean, my

00:24:09.660 --> 00:24:13.680
papa, both of my grandparents, they were my grandfathers.

00:24:13.700 --> 00:24:16.920
They were my male adult role models. When my

00:24:16.920 --> 00:24:22.960
mom remarried, he was a great guy. But we just

00:24:22.960 --> 00:24:25.920
didn't connect like my friends did with their

00:24:25.920 --> 00:24:29.319
fathers, you know. So I think the most challenging

00:24:29.319 --> 00:24:33.700
thing for me was sporting events. And just not

00:24:33.700 --> 00:24:36.960
having a dad there to support you, you know,

00:24:36.980 --> 00:24:42.619
which I remember thinking about it. I would only

00:24:42.619 --> 00:24:44.920
really think about it when I'd see my other friends'

00:24:45.039 --> 00:24:47.140
fathers there at the games, you know. But those

00:24:47.140 --> 00:24:49.180
dads were great. And I think they recognized

00:24:49.180 --> 00:24:52.240
what was going on, seeing me and my mom. And

00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:54.180
so they'd come over and, hey, good job, Sean.

00:24:54.319 --> 00:24:56.339
You played great, that kind of stuff. But that

00:24:56.339 --> 00:24:58.539
was the most challenging thing for me, I think.

00:25:00.860 --> 00:25:05.119
informed the way that you raised your kids and

00:25:05.119 --> 00:25:08.140
maybe also the way that you showed up for the

00:25:08.140 --> 00:25:11.940
kids that you taught and coached um we've had

00:25:11.940 --> 00:25:14.539
this conversation a lot uh my wife and i and

00:25:14.539 --> 00:25:18.359
my kids but you know you you want to it inspires

00:25:18.359 --> 00:25:22.700
you to be the dad that you didn't have and again

00:25:22.700 --> 00:25:26.660
i'm not I don't claim to be perfect, but I strived.

00:25:26.660 --> 00:25:28.700
I think that's why I got into education too,

00:25:28.759 --> 00:25:31.059
because I wanted that flexibility. Education

00:25:31.059 --> 00:25:33.319
has provided me the flexibility to, you know,

00:25:33.319 --> 00:25:36.720
I don't think I missed much of any of my kids'

00:25:36.799 --> 00:25:40.299
sporting events. I wanted to be there for them.

00:25:42.079 --> 00:25:44.180
It's funny you ask that question from a coaching

00:25:44.180 --> 00:25:48.940
perspective. I recognize, and I'm not really...

00:25:49.240 --> 00:25:50.900
I'm processing this because you asked a great

00:25:50.900 --> 00:25:54.740
question. I recognized kids who didn't have,

00:25:54.920 --> 00:25:57.680
who maybe were in that same situation. And I

00:25:57.680 --> 00:26:02.559
felt myself gravitating and trying to fill that

00:26:02.559 --> 00:26:04.640
void a little bit. Like maybe they needed a few

00:26:04.640 --> 00:26:07.799
more attaboys or attagirls, you know? Yeah. Because

00:26:07.799 --> 00:26:11.140
I coached boys and girls basketball at different

00:26:11.140 --> 00:26:14.299
times in my career. So it's funny you ask that

00:26:14.299 --> 00:26:16.160
question because I'm just now realizing I think

00:26:16.160 --> 00:26:18.539
I did that, you know? Yeah, it's pretty natural

00:26:18.539 --> 00:26:20.599
to me. I think you understood better than anybody

00:26:20.599 --> 00:26:25.279
the value of what positive, positive adult influences

00:26:25.279 --> 00:26:27.440
and especially positive male influences that

00:26:27.440 --> 00:26:29.400
that was not present, like how much that can

00:26:29.400 --> 00:26:32.539
make an impact on somebody. Every health lesson

00:26:32.539 --> 00:26:35.839
I did always seemed to, you know, whether you're

00:26:35.839 --> 00:26:40.839
talking about depression or resilience or anything,

00:26:41.559 --> 00:26:44.099
all these positive, all these characteristics,

00:26:44.319 --> 00:26:49.309
it all came back to. Every youth should have

00:26:49.309 --> 00:26:53.349
at least one adult role model in their life who

00:26:53.349 --> 00:26:56.210
has their genuine well -being and interest in

00:26:56.210 --> 00:27:00.289
mind. Somebody that they can truly trust. Every

00:27:00.289 --> 00:27:04.329
young child, teenager needs that. Somebody they

00:27:04.329 --> 00:27:08.960
can talk to. Somebody they can go to. There's

00:27:08.960 --> 00:27:10.619
a lot of research out there that just shows that

00:27:10.619 --> 00:27:13.680
when those things, when they have those types

00:27:13.680 --> 00:27:17.319
of people in their lives, that they just tend

00:27:17.319 --> 00:27:20.460
to live healthier, better lives. I mean, there's

00:27:20.460 --> 00:27:23.359
no guarantees. Yeah, but you can definitely give

00:27:23.359 --> 00:27:25.720
them a better shot when you can have that positive

00:27:25.720 --> 00:27:28.000
influence on a kid's life. Yeah. Yeah, no doubt.

00:27:28.099 --> 00:27:32.910
So let's bring in. this movie enchanted and we're

00:27:32.910 --> 00:27:34.650
going to talk about some different things of

00:27:34.650 --> 00:27:38.589
the arc of of the character giselle in uh enchanted

00:27:38.589 --> 00:27:40.269
i'm going to read a quick synopsis of the movie

00:27:40.269 --> 00:27:42.410
kind of gives us a 30 000 foot view i'm going

00:27:42.410 --> 00:27:44.009
to ask you about a couple of quotes that i've

00:27:44.009 --> 00:27:47.309
got on here so here's the brief synopsis enchanted

00:27:47.309 --> 00:27:49.569
follows giselle an animated princess from the

00:27:49.569 --> 00:27:52.650
fairy tale kingdom of andalasia who believes

00:27:52.650 --> 00:27:55.569
in love at first sight and happily ever after

00:27:55.569 --> 00:27:58.480
without question When the jealous queen banishes

00:27:58.480 --> 00:28:01.220
her through a magical portal, Giselle lands in

00:28:01.220 --> 00:28:04.720
live -action New York City, disoriented and still

00:28:04.720 --> 00:28:07.500
fully expecting her prince, Edward, to rescue

00:28:07.500 --> 00:28:10.940
her. Instead, she's taken in by Robert, a divorced,

00:28:11.079 --> 00:28:13.599
pragmatic divorce lawyer who has grown cynical

00:28:13.599 --> 00:28:15.819
about love and is raising his young daughter

00:28:15.819 --> 00:28:19.019
to believe the same. As Giselle's fairytale worldview

00:28:19.019 --> 00:28:21.940
collides with Robert's guarded realism, Both

00:28:21.940 --> 00:28:24.019
are forced to confront what they believe love

00:28:24.019 --> 00:28:26.440
actually requires. And the film builds to the

00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:29.019
idea that real love isn't handed to you like

00:28:29.019 --> 00:28:31.559
a spell breaking. It's chosen and fought for

00:28:31.559 --> 00:28:35.000
in the real world. That synopsis. Really, like

00:28:35.000 --> 00:28:37.619
this is such a good show, right? Like there's

00:28:37.619 --> 00:28:39.859
so many actual life lessons to pull from it.

00:28:39.900 --> 00:28:41.519
But let's talk about like the very beginning,

00:28:41.619 --> 00:28:44.579
right? When Giselle is kind of in this stage

00:28:44.579 --> 00:28:47.779
of not understanding what love actually is, not

00:28:47.779 --> 00:28:49.339
understanding what happily ever after means,

00:28:49.500 --> 00:28:50.940
having no idea what it is. And here's one of

00:28:50.940 --> 00:28:53.180
the things that she says. I'm sure that Edward

00:28:53.180 --> 00:28:55.680
is already searching for me. No doubt by morning

00:28:55.680 --> 00:28:58.019
he'll come and rescue me from this strange land.

00:28:58.200 --> 00:29:00.980
Take me home so the two of us can share a true

00:29:00.980 --> 00:29:03.920
love's kiss. And so, you know, in what way do

00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:07.880
we sometimes have this? This kind of, I guess,

00:29:07.940 --> 00:29:11.920
fairytale view of what love actually means. And

00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:14.519
what does love actually mean? And how is it a

00:29:14.519 --> 00:29:17.039
little bit different than her kind of, I would

00:29:17.039 --> 00:29:21.180
say, infantile view of what love is? Well, yeah,

00:29:21.299 --> 00:29:25.220
I mean, she's very naive, which makes her even

00:29:25.220 --> 00:29:27.420
more likable. You know, just, you know, being

00:29:27.420 --> 00:29:29.440
thrown into, I think it's New York City. Yeah,

00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:35.869
New York. And I think her, you know, kids. look

00:29:35.869 --> 00:29:38.450
at love it's all it's a fairy tale right everybody

00:29:38.450 --> 00:29:40.390
wants their life to be a fairy tale and then

00:29:40.390 --> 00:29:43.369
as we get older we realize that um that that

00:29:43.369 --> 00:29:46.009
doesn't always go what's that line by john lennon

00:29:46.009 --> 00:29:47.789
life's what happens when you're busy making other

00:29:47.789 --> 00:29:50.190
plans right you know yeah and so but we all want

00:29:50.190 --> 00:29:52.670
that love it just comes in different ways in

00:29:52.670 --> 00:29:57.329
that movie though uh i thought she was uh you

00:29:57.329 --> 00:30:01.910
start off thinking she's the one that has a lot

00:30:01.910 --> 00:30:06.250
to learn but as the movie goes on She ends up

00:30:06.250 --> 00:30:12.630
teaching us in the classic Disney, the real life

00:30:12.630 --> 00:30:15.329
with animation, which this whole movie encapsulates

00:30:15.329 --> 00:30:17.269
all the different fairy tales in the one. That's

00:30:17.269 --> 00:30:19.890
why I told you I love it so much. But she ends

00:30:19.890 --> 00:30:23.460
up teaching us about sometimes you just... We've

00:30:23.460 --> 00:30:26.440
got to simplify, keep it simple. So she's kind

00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:28.400
of naive in a sense. She learns a little bit,

00:30:28.400 --> 00:30:31.500
but at the same time, she goes around and educates

00:30:31.500 --> 00:30:33.920
others. And like I told you about like that one

00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:39.660
couple, I think she helps kind of mediates, I

00:30:39.660 --> 00:30:42.099
guess, in a way and gives them some advice. And

00:30:42.099 --> 00:30:45.819
so when I look at it, I think the message and

00:30:45.819 --> 00:30:48.319
a lot of messages in that movie is, you know,

00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:52.940
keep. Keep it simple. Don't focus on the thick

00:30:52.940 --> 00:30:55.339
of thin things. My wife and I talk about that

00:30:55.339 --> 00:30:56.900
a lot. It's something I'm working on right now.

00:30:57.000 --> 00:31:00.319
But that movie, I loved it. I thought Giselle

00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:02.559
was the one that taught everyone at the end.

00:31:02.720 --> 00:31:04.700
Yeah, because in the beginning, you do kind of

00:31:04.700 --> 00:31:06.559
see her as this just really naive character.

00:31:07.019 --> 00:31:09.980
When in reality, there's actually this purity

00:31:09.980 --> 00:31:13.539
to her belief in love. And I think you're right.

00:31:13.579 --> 00:31:18.850
Sometimes we want to look at that child. childlike

00:31:18.850 --> 00:31:21.410
things and think they're just childish. But sometimes

00:31:21.410 --> 00:31:23.710
they're not. Sometimes we actually could be a

00:31:23.710 --> 00:31:25.710
little bit more childlike and have a little bit

00:31:25.710 --> 00:31:28.089
more of that purity in what we believe. Because

00:31:28.089 --> 00:31:33.250
Robert, the divorced divorce attorney, which

00:31:33.250 --> 00:31:35.549
he is, and which when I rewatched this show,

00:31:35.589 --> 00:31:36.869
I thought it was so funny. I told you this before,

00:31:36.990 --> 00:31:39.069
but I didn't realize he was a divorce attorney

00:31:39.069 --> 00:31:40.529
until I rewatched it. And I'm like, oh my goodness,

00:31:40.630 --> 00:31:42.430
I'm a divorce attorney. How do I not realize

00:31:42.430 --> 00:31:44.869
that Robert's a divorce attorney? But he has

00:31:44.869 --> 00:31:46.509
this really cynical view. And one of the things

00:31:46.509 --> 00:31:49.250
he says when he's talking to his daughter, he

00:31:49.250 --> 00:31:52.890
says, forget about happily ever after. It doesn't

00:31:52.890 --> 00:31:55.190
exist. So he's like on the opposite end of the

00:31:55.190 --> 00:31:57.490
spectrum, right? 100%. Giselle is like, oh, of

00:31:57.490 --> 00:31:58.609
course it's going to be happily ever after. I

00:31:58.609 --> 00:32:00.390
just need to have true love's kiss. And he's

00:32:00.390 --> 00:32:02.690
like, yeah, daughter, forget about it. It doesn't

00:32:02.690 --> 00:32:06.130
happen. It doesn't exist. Don't even try thinking

00:32:06.130 --> 00:32:07.549
that's going to be something that happens in

00:32:07.549 --> 00:32:10.849
life. And it really is just like, okay, how do

00:32:10.849 --> 00:32:14.109
these characters end up coming together? um in

00:32:14.109 --> 00:32:16.930
a way that really ends up teaching robert a lot

00:32:16.930 --> 00:32:19.710
more about life because i think more often as

00:32:19.710 --> 00:32:23.089
adults were robert yeah it's easy for us to be

00:32:23.089 --> 00:32:24.930
cynical it's easy to connect with him easily

00:32:24.930 --> 00:32:27.210
yeah it's it's easy to be like man life's hard

00:32:27.210 --> 00:32:29.670
man a lot of things happen like a lot of tough

00:32:29.670 --> 00:32:32.990
things happen you know why why does this person

00:32:32.990 --> 00:32:35.670
get cancer why is this person dying a car accident

00:32:35.670 --> 00:32:38.990
right why why do i get divorced why does my spouse

00:32:38.990 --> 00:32:40.809
leave me i deal with that all the time as a divorce

00:32:40.809 --> 00:32:43.789
attorney right where people are not wanting this

00:32:43.789 --> 00:32:46.210
divorce to happen and kind of left like, why

00:32:46.210 --> 00:32:49.130
is this the thing that happened to me? And then

00:32:49.130 --> 00:32:51.650
kind of feeling a little bit down about what

00:32:51.650 --> 00:32:54.609
life has presented. But I think you're right.

00:32:54.670 --> 00:32:57.730
What Giselle starts to teach him is that there

00:32:57.730 --> 00:33:01.789
is something there for us all. There is love

00:33:01.789 --> 00:33:05.049
and happiness for us there if we will look for

00:33:05.049 --> 00:33:07.599
it. And have a little bit more of that maybe

00:33:07.599 --> 00:33:12.160
childlike view that there is something more there.

00:33:12.500 --> 00:33:14.759
And like you said, sorry, Ryan, but like you

00:33:14.759 --> 00:33:17.579
said, there were two totally opposite people.

00:33:18.259 --> 00:33:20.980
But I think, again, two people that can seem

00:33:20.980 --> 00:33:24.339
so different could have enough commonalities

00:33:24.339 --> 00:33:26.920
where they could fall in love. You know what

00:33:26.920 --> 00:33:29.960
I'm saying? Absolutely. I love that movie. Why

00:33:29.960 --> 00:33:33.279
do you think it is that sometimes we get cynical

00:33:33.279 --> 00:33:38.000
in life like Robert? Through experience where

00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:42.319
maybe things just aren't going our way. We seem

00:33:42.319 --> 00:33:46.900
to have hard luck. Me, spiritually, I feel like

00:33:46.900 --> 00:33:48.759
there's always a reason for that. Some things

00:33:48.759 --> 00:33:51.000
are put in front of us that we need to learn

00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:55.920
to overcome. But experience and just maybe not

00:33:55.920 --> 00:33:58.880
having a lot of the positive experiences happen.

00:33:59.039 --> 00:34:02.279
So you just kind of start going down this woe

00:34:02.279 --> 00:34:06.970
is me downward spiral to where. you kind of almost

00:34:06.970 --> 00:34:10.230
like you give up a little bit. And so when somebody

00:34:10.230 --> 00:34:12.510
comes up and says, I'm looking for my Prince

00:34:12.510 --> 00:34:14.530
Charming and my true love's kiss, it's like,

00:34:14.630 --> 00:34:19.510
you know, crazy, you know. But I truly believe,

00:34:19.650 --> 00:34:22.030
and this is where Walt Disney comes back in the

00:34:22.030 --> 00:34:26.010
play, we all have that child in us. I feel like

00:34:26.010 --> 00:34:29.909
it gets buried, but sometimes, you know, we have

00:34:29.909 --> 00:34:32.989
to go back and find that and remember that and

00:34:32.989 --> 00:34:35.750
just get back to who we truly are. our core and

00:34:35.750 --> 00:34:38.929
just to, you know, to be a kid again, you know,

00:34:38.929 --> 00:34:40.789
I would love to be a kid again. I think that's

00:34:40.789 --> 00:34:43.730
why I love the movies and we watch all the, we

00:34:43.730 --> 00:34:45.829
just saw Spider -Man. I mean, you know, we go

00:34:45.829 --> 00:34:47.630
to movies to enjoy ourselves, but Walt Disney,

00:34:47.769 --> 00:34:51.449
Disney movies have shaped us. Yeah. Yeah. It's,

00:34:51.449 --> 00:34:53.949
you know, it's, it's really interesting. I love

00:34:53.949 --> 00:34:55.769
where you're going here with this. And it really

00:34:55.769 --> 00:34:58.389
leads really well into this, this quote that

00:34:58.389 --> 00:35:00.969
I found from John Gottman. John Gottman's one

00:35:00.969 --> 00:35:03.210
of the primary authorities when it comes to marriage

00:35:03.210 --> 00:35:06.730
and family counseling. He and his wife are the

00:35:06.730 --> 00:35:09.730
authorities on it. And he said this, which was

00:35:09.730 --> 00:35:12.769
so interesting. He said, happily ever after simply

00:35:12.769 --> 00:35:17.389
means that both partners are known, valued, accepted

00:35:17.389 --> 00:35:20.789
for who they are and who they are becoming. The

00:35:20.789 --> 00:35:22.530
goal is to be able to love your partner more

00:35:22.530 --> 00:35:26.000
deeply each and every year you're together. i

00:35:26.000 --> 00:35:29.079
love that reframing of happily ever after yeah

00:35:29.079 --> 00:35:31.019
give me give me your take on that give me your

00:35:31.019 --> 00:35:33.139
take on john gottman's framing of happily ever

00:35:33.139 --> 00:35:35.699
after and what it means well when you're talking

00:35:35.699 --> 00:35:39.360
about just the relationship part um it makes

00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:41.219
me think i don't know how long ago i heard this

00:35:41.219 --> 00:35:43.239
but like it's about you know the person that

00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:45.219
like my wife and i've been married coming up

00:35:45.219 --> 00:35:49.940
on 31 years you know we fell in love with the

00:35:49.940 --> 00:35:52.039
people we were then but we're not the same people

00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:55.760
we are now so you have you have you're both changing.

00:35:55.800 --> 00:35:58.460
So you're falling in love with the newer version

00:35:58.460 --> 00:36:00.739
of each other each and every day, each and every

00:36:00.739 --> 00:36:04.639
year, you know? So, you know, I love, but with

00:36:04.639 --> 00:36:08.260
that, it makes, it makes your love even stronger,

00:36:08.340 --> 00:36:11.019
you know, but I, to me, the happily ever after

00:36:11.019 --> 00:36:14.440
is continuing to grow and learn and love the

00:36:14.440 --> 00:36:16.320
person you're with because they're changing just

00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:20.079
like you are. And that to me is exciting. You

00:36:20.079 --> 00:36:23.929
know, I still think. Speaking of Mamaw and Papaw,

00:36:23.969 --> 00:36:27.530
I talked about relationships. Because when you're

00:36:27.530 --> 00:36:31.889
a kid and they've been helping raise you, you

00:36:31.889 --> 00:36:34.130
have these conversations. I was closer to my

00:36:34.130 --> 00:36:36.050
grandparents than maybe a lot of people were

00:36:36.050 --> 00:36:38.630
with their grandparents. I'm not saying that

00:36:38.630 --> 00:36:41.469
I was the closest, but my point is they told

00:36:41.469 --> 00:36:45.090
me that the magic to their relationship was love

00:36:45.090 --> 00:36:48.829
and compromise. And so I've tried to apply that

00:36:48.829 --> 00:36:51.230
into my relationship with my wife because that's

00:36:51.230 --> 00:36:54.510
huge. But we're constantly growing and you're

00:36:54.510 --> 00:36:55.869
just going to fall in love with that person again.

00:36:56.210 --> 00:36:59.710
It's a beautiful reframe because many times sitting

00:36:59.710 --> 00:37:01.670
in my seat as a divorce attorney, what I'll hear

00:37:01.670 --> 00:37:04.570
is like, oh, we're getting divorced because we're

00:37:04.570 --> 00:37:06.610
just two different people than when we got married.

00:37:07.099 --> 00:37:09.940
15 years ago, 20 years ago. And now I'm kind

00:37:09.940 --> 00:37:12.679
of thinking like, yeah, no kidding. Yeah. Yeah.

00:37:12.699 --> 00:37:15.019
You're different because you're not, you know,

00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:18.280
you, when you were 21, you know, you're 36, you're

00:37:18.280 --> 00:37:20.699
40, you're 45. Of course you're different. The

00:37:20.699 --> 00:37:23.739
question is, are you going to use those, those,

00:37:23.780 --> 00:37:25.800
that growth and those differences you have in

00:37:25.800 --> 00:37:28.199
growth together? Are you going to value each

00:37:28.199 --> 00:37:30.280
other, accept each other for who you are and

00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:32.960
who you are becoming? Like John Gottman said,

00:37:33.119 --> 00:37:36.539
fall. I love how you said fall in love. as you

00:37:36.539 --> 00:37:39.139
go to you're falling in love with who you're

00:37:39.139 --> 00:37:41.260
becoming as you're changing which is such a beautiful

00:37:41.260 --> 00:37:43.400
way to look at it or he's going to see the change

00:37:43.400 --> 00:37:45.659
as negative yeah and push it away like robert

00:37:45.659 --> 00:37:48.480
right like okay yep cynical you're not who you

00:37:48.480 --> 00:37:50.880
were when i married you 20 years ago so that

00:37:50.880 --> 00:37:52.840
must mean we we aren't meant for each other must

00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:54.400
mean when you get divorced when in reality is

00:37:54.400 --> 00:37:56.300
that okay you are a little bit different and

00:37:56.300 --> 00:37:58.639
so am i yeah okay so how do we have the how do

00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:01.019
we have the compromise how do we have the communication

00:38:01.019 --> 00:38:03.940
and the collaboration in this relationship um

00:38:04.519 --> 00:38:08.300
I also love that this is such a different way

00:38:08.300 --> 00:38:10.579
to look at Happily Ever After because I think

00:38:10.579 --> 00:38:14.179
sometimes Disney movies get criticized for the

00:38:14.179 --> 00:38:16.099
Happily Ever After. Like, oh, it's just this

00:38:16.099 --> 00:38:18.059
unrealistic view. Like, of course, yeah, you're

00:38:18.059 --> 00:38:19.920
going to find your true love and, you know, the

00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:22.179
Happily Ever After and it's all roses. No, I

00:38:22.179 --> 00:38:23.619
think the way that John Gottman is describing

00:38:23.619 --> 00:38:26.139
it and like you've described it is Happily Ever

00:38:26.139 --> 00:38:29.519
After is a process of becoming. Yeah. And continuing

00:38:29.519 --> 00:38:31.820
to fall in love. It's not one thing and it's

00:38:31.820 --> 00:38:34.119
over. It's what does that now look like? Now

00:38:34.119 --> 00:38:38.159
you can embark on this journey together to find

00:38:38.159 --> 00:38:42.940
joy and happiness together in this process of

00:38:42.940 --> 00:38:45.179
growing and becoming. It's really a nice way

00:38:45.179 --> 00:38:47.019
to look at it. And another thing that just made

00:38:47.019 --> 00:38:48.699
me think about this while you were talking about

00:38:48.699 --> 00:38:53.280
that is you're learning to love this person who's

00:38:53.280 --> 00:38:56.300
changing. Like, you know, watching my wife help

00:38:56.300 --> 00:39:00.389
raise four kids. She hadn't raised any kids when

00:39:00.389 --> 00:39:04.530
I met her. So this is a person now that I know

00:39:04.530 --> 00:39:07.610
and I've watched do this. She's a different person,

00:39:07.690 --> 00:39:10.489
but I love her even more. But another part that's

00:39:10.489 --> 00:39:13.550
really important is it's hard because a lot of

00:39:13.550 --> 00:39:17.469
times I think people can love another person.

00:39:18.039 --> 00:39:20.039
But you also got to love the person that you're

00:39:20.039 --> 00:39:23.179
growing and evolving into as well. And if you

00:39:23.179 --> 00:39:24.900
don't love yourself, then sometimes what you

00:39:24.900 --> 00:39:26.440
do, there's different ways you can respond to

00:39:26.440 --> 00:39:28.099
that. You can close yourself off from the world.

00:39:28.139 --> 00:39:30.639
You can have resentment because maybe the person

00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:33.559
that you're in love with is happy with the way

00:39:33.559 --> 00:39:36.960
they're evolving and you're not happy with yourself.

00:39:37.139 --> 00:39:40.639
So that can cause some conflict in a relationship.

00:39:40.900 --> 00:39:44.500
So we're all growing and learning. Like I'm 59

00:39:44.500 --> 00:39:49.780
years old. I don't know what it's like to be

00:39:49.780 --> 00:39:53.639
60, so I've got to learn how to be 59 and get

00:39:53.639 --> 00:39:56.199
advice from other people. But I've got to accept

00:39:56.199 --> 00:39:58.599
that I'm getting older and love the person that

00:39:58.599 --> 00:40:01.760
I am. Do I wish I could still go play basketball

00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:03.420
and run up and down the floor like I used to?

00:40:03.519 --> 00:40:05.400
Sure, but I've got to be able to accept that

00:40:05.400 --> 00:40:07.940
and still love the person I am now and the thinning

00:40:07.940 --> 00:40:11.139
hair and the gray hair. But it's part of life.

00:40:11.239 --> 00:40:12.780
But you've got to love yourself, and then I think

00:40:12.780 --> 00:40:17.159
it helps you love others. I think it's important

00:40:17.159 --> 00:40:19.980
when we think about, you know, ourselves and

00:40:19.980 --> 00:40:24.320
how we're changing, giving ourselves grace as

00:40:24.320 --> 00:40:26.679
well, because we're not going to be perfect.

00:40:27.059 --> 00:40:29.260
Like we are in the process of changing. We're

00:40:29.260 --> 00:40:31.119
in the process of things are different than they

00:40:31.119 --> 00:40:33.059
used to be. Giving ourselves some grace as well

00:40:33.059 --> 00:40:35.880
as giving our loved ones that grace as they're

00:40:35.880 --> 00:40:38.090
doing the same thing. As they're growing, as

00:40:38.090 --> 00:40:40.210
they're learning, as they're changing and becoming

00:40:40.210 --> 00:40:43.170
somebody new and somebody different, giving that

00:40:43.170 --> 00:40:46.610
grace really provides space, I think, for that

00:40:46.610 --> 00:40:49.530
love to continue to exist there. Yes. Amidst

00:40:49.530 --> 00:40:52.010
those changes. Yeah. Oh, yeah. When you think

00:40:52.010 --> 00:40:57.829
about your role as an athletic director right

00:40:57.829 --> 00:41:02.510
now and in the things that you do, when you're

00:41:02.510 --> 00:41:09.619
trying to show up for a student, for a kid, How

00:41:09.619 --> 00:41:14.300
is it you do that when it's not easy? It's either

00:41:14.300 --> 00:41:17.440
there's barriers in the way, it's maybe the lack

00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:21.659
of parent support or, you know, there's kids

00:41:21.659 --> 00:41:23.579
in a really difficult situation. How do you continue

00:41:23.579 --> 00:41:26.139
to show up for these kids and help them and inspire

00:41:26.139 --> 00:41:30.360
them when it's really hard to do it? Before we

00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:33.639
jump back in, can I ask you a quick favor? If

00:41:33.639 --> 00:41:35.960
you're enjoying the journey so far, will you

00:41:35.960 --> 00:41:39.429
like... rate and subscribe to our show it helps

00:41:39.429 --> 00:41:42.829
us reach more people like you we can design and

00:41:42.829 --> 00:41:45.210
create and build the most wonderful place in

00:41:45.210 --> 00:41:48.190
the world but it takes people to make the dream

00:41:48.190 --> 00:41:52.969
a reality um first of all real quick i just want

00:41:52.969 --> 00:41:56.449
to say i meant to say this at the beginning you're

00:41:56.449 --> 00:41:58.170
you're a lot younger than me but i think it's

00:41:58.170 --> 00:42:02.369
so cool that somebody how old are you 44 You're

00:42:02.369 --> 00:42:04.610
44? 44. Well, I thought you were in your 30s.

00:42:04.610 --> 00:42:07.010
So you're doing great. But still, still young

00:42:07.010 --> 00:42:10.230
to me, right? But the fact you're 44, you live

00:42:10.230 --> 00:42:13.329
in Utah and you have this family and you have

00:42:13.329 --> 00:42:15.070
this passion for Disneyland. I just think it's

00:42:15.070 --> 00:42:18.269
so cool. But anyway, it's just nice to see. But

00:42:18.269 --> 00:42:20.269
to answer your question, and you kind of touched

00:42:20.269 --> 00:42:22.309
on a little bit about parents and all that and

00:42:22.309 --> 00:42:25.650
their background. Life's about relationships.

00:42:25.869 --> 00:42:27.510
Coaching for me was always about relationships.

00:42:27.610 --> 00:42:30.880
Teaching is about relationships. The best thing

00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:33.380
I could do as a teacher, even as an athletic

00:42:33.380 --> 00:42:35.380
director, is get to know the people you work

00:42:35.380 --> 00:42:36.900
with or get to know your students. So we're using

00:42:36.900 --> 00:42:39.099
students as an example. If you get to know them

00:42:39.099 --> 00:42:42.360
and you understand their upbringing, a lot of

00:42:42.360 --> 00:42:45.760
them have a tough situation. So it's easy to

00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:50.199
sympathize, maybe not empathize, but sympathize

00:42:50.199 --> 00:42:53.420
with them. And it makes you want to help them,

00:42:53.460 --> 00:42:56.099
obviously. But the other go -to for me, because

00:42:56.099 --> 00:42:59.639
that's a really good question. I wasn't perfect

00:42:59.639 --> 00:43:03.719
as a kid and I would hate to be judged on the

00:43:03.719 --> 00:43:06.699
things I did or said when I was 15, 16 or 17

00:43:06.699 --> 00:43:09.719
years old. So I look at all these, you know,

00:43:09.739 --> 00:43:13.280
I would, if I met my 15 year old me, you know,

00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:16.159
like the Brad Paisley song, you know, wrote that

00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:18.460
letter to me song, but I would probably think

00:43:18.460 --> 00:43:20.480
I was, you know, kids and knucklehead, you know?

00:43:20.820 --> 00:43:23.940
So I, I, The brain doesn't fully mature until,

00:43:24.019 --> 00:43:26.739
what, 25? Is that what they say? So you have

00:43:26.739 --> 00:43:28.980
to keep telling yourself that because there's

00:43:28.980 --> 00:43:31.539
been so many students I've had over the years

00:43:31.539 --> 00:43:35.219
that were knuckleheads. I don't mean to use that

00:43:35.219 --> 00:43:38.519
term, but like my wife knows, I just got an out

00:43:38.519 --> 00:43:39.699
-of -the -blue Instagram. I don't know how to

00:43:39.699 --> 00:43:41.760
work Instagram well, but I just got this. It

00:43:41.760 --> 00:43:43.780
was under the request. It wasn't a message. It

00:43:43.780 --> 00:43:46.420
said request. And I clicked on it. It was something

00:43:46.420 --> 00:43:51.760
from a student of mine from 2009. who was reaching

00:43:51.760 --> 00:43:55.579
out to me and he he was a handful and he even

00:43:55.579 --> 00:43:58.460
said that in the message i know you know i won't

00:43:58.460 --> 00:44:00.960
use the term that he used but he used a term

00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:04.019
and he was spot on but um what i'm getting at

00:44:04.019 --> 00:44:07.579
is that you know that they're gonna most of them

00:44:07.579 --> 00:44:10.400
they're gonna grow out of this and you have to

00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:13.480
be understanding that again you can't you know

00:44:13.480 --> 00:44:15.380
you gotta let them know whether you're not your

00:44:15.380 --> 00:44:19.400
friend There has to be a level of respect there,

00:44:19.440 --> 00:44:21.679
but they have to know that you care about them

00:44:21.679 --> 00:44:24.760
and all that. And I think eventually the light

00:44:24.760 --> 00:44:27.360
turns on for these kids. Maybe when they're 13,

00:44:27.500 --> 00:44:29.539
the light turns on. Maybe not until they're 23.

00:44:30.380 --> 00:44:32.300
But you just keep trying to plant those seeds

00:44:32.300 --> 00:44:35.139
and be positive. Yeah, I think that's a great

00:44:35.139 --> 00:44:38.909
point. It kind of plays into the next quote that

00:44:38.909 --> 00:44:40.929
I have, which is from Gary Chapman. He wrote

00:44:40.929 --> 00:44:42.869
The Five Love Languages, which a lot of people

00:44:42.869 --> 00:44:44.989
know. It's pretty popular, right? And one of

00:44:44.989 --> 00:44:47.409
the things he said is, our most basic emotional

00:44:47.409 --> 00:44:51.150
need is not to fall in love, but to be genuinely

00:44:51.150 --> 00:44:53.949
loved by another. To know a love that grows out

00:44:53.949 --> 00:44:56.530
of reason and choice, not instinct. I need to

00:44:56.530 --> 00:44:58.809
be loved by someone who chooses to love me, who

00:44:58.809 --> 00:45:02.389
sees in me something worth loving. And I think

00:45:02.389 --> 00:45:06.059
that's a role that a teacher, that a coach, that

00:45:06.059 --> 00:45:10.519
a mentor can really help to play a role they

00:45:10.519 --> 00:45:13.820
can play in a child's life, especially for somebody

00:45:13.820 --> 00:45:16.260
who maybe doesn't have the ideal family situation,

00:45:16.500 --> 00:45:21.739
to know that they are loved and that this person

00:45:21.739 --> 00:45:24.619
is choosing to love them, even if they're a handful,

00:45:24.860 --> 00:45:27.460
even if they're pretty tough, they're pretty

00:45:27.460 --> 00:45:30.280
hard, that we still do. And that can make such

00:45:30.280 --> 00:45:32.039
a difference in somebody, even if it's not manifest

00:45:32.039 --> 00:45:35.889
at the beginning. My dad is a teacher. He's had

00:45:35.889 --> 00:45:38.309
similar experiences where he's had old students

00:45:38.309 --> 00:45:41.010
recognize him and stop him and talk about the

00:45:41.010 --> 00:45:43.150
influence they had. And sometimes it's kind of

00:45:43.150 --> 00:45:44.809
like, I have no idea how that kid turned out.

00:45:45.289 --> 00:45:47.610
Right? Like, well, I'm glad they did. Didn't

00:45:47.610 --> 00:45:49.610
realize that what I did stuck with him. And he

00:45:49.610 --> 00:45:51.309
mostly taught fifth and sixth grade. And it's

00:45:51.309 --> 00:45:53.449
like, wait, I taught him in fifth grade and that

00:45:53.449 --> 00:45:55.409
stuck with him? And he's now 30 years old telling

00:45:55.409 --> 00:45:58.130
me this? Like, there's such a great influence

00:45:58.130 --> 00:46:01.280
that we can have if we'll take the time. To recognize

00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:03.820
it, be patient, be curious, and to love them.

00:46:04.019 --> 00:46:05.699
Yeah. And it's funny because your dad was probably

00:46:05.699 --> 00:46:07.980
like – probably doesn't remember saying it, but

00:46:07.980 --> 00:46:09.599
he's probably thinking, yeah, it sounds like

00:46:09.599 --> 00:46:12.000
something I probably would have said. And so

00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:15.380
that's really cool. And I still think those little

00:46:15.380 --> 00:46:20.099
moments when you run into maybe a former student,

00:46:20.260 --> 00:46:23.159
it's what keeps you going as an educator. I truly

00:46:23.159 --> 00:46:25.539
believe that. And maybe you have some former

00:46:25.539 --> 00:46:27.280
clients that you still keep in contact with that

00:46:27.280 --> 00:46:30.840
say, hey, you've helped change our lives. Well,

00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:33.260
it goes back to wanting to be loved, being accepted.

00:46:33.519 --> 00:46:37.179
Well, now, we all have rough days. So maybe there's

00:46:37.179 --> 00:46:39.239
days like, you know, am I doing any good in this

00:46:39.239 --> 00:46:42.099
world? And then you get people telling you stuff

00:46:42.099 --> 00:46:44.000
like that. And you're like, you know what? Yeah,

00:46:44.099 --> 00:46:45.519
I'm doing the right thing, you know. And it's

00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:47.980
a part of being accepted. And it is a form of

00:46:47.980 --> 00:46:51.699
love. For sure. Yeah, because in anybody's job,

00:46:51.719 --> 00:46:55.739
in anybody's profession, there's hard days. There's

00:46:55.739 --> 00:46:57.239
times where there's really difficult situations.

00:46:57.300 --> 00:47:00.500
And having... those reminders that that will

00:47:00.500 --> 00:47:04.320
come up that we're doing something good beyond

00:47:04.320 --> 00:47:08.820
ourselves um is extremely meaningful and sometimes

00:47:08.820 --> 00:47:12.280
it is rare look i do divorce you know when people

00:47:12.280 --> 00:47:15.219
get divorced it's not like they're super excited

00:47:15.219 --> 00:47:17.019
most of the time right usually it's a pretty

00:47:17.019 --> 00:47:20.469
difficult emotional situation But we do have

00:47:20.469 --> 00:47:22.889
those occasions where we do have clients that

00:47:22.889 --> 00:47:24.349
are just really grateful because we stood by

00:47:24.349 --> 00:47:27.389
them. And we helped them navigate a really, really

00:47:27.389 --> 00:47:29.670
hard time. And it does. It really carries you

00:47:29.670 --> 00:47:30.849
through. It carries you through the hard days

00:47:30.849 --> 00:47:33.389
when somebody expresses that gratitude. I remember

00:47:33.389 --> 00:47:37.409
we had done an adoption for somebody. So a little

00:47:37.409 --> 00:47:40.510
bit happier event, right, than a divorce. But

00:47:40.510 --> 00:47:42.210
we'd done the adoption. It went super smooth,

00:47:42.389 --> 00:47:44.469
right? Seemed like, you know. hundreds of other

00:47:44.469 --> 00:47:46.570
adoptions that i've done we try to treat everybody

00:47:46.570 --> 00:47:48.929
great um they were just a super sweet couple

00:47:48.929 --> 00:47:53.010
uh cute little kid that they adopted and the

00:47:53.010 --> 00:47:55.550
next week like they delivered to our office here

00:47:55.550 --> 00:47:59.630
one of those like fancy gourmet apple like caramel

00:47:59.630 --> 00:48:03.230
apples for everybody in the office like they

00:48:03.230 --> 00:48:06.010
pay us to help with an adoption and they come

00:48:06.010 --> 00:48:08.269
bring this to us and it just like brought so

00:48:08.269 --> 00:48:10.809
much like fun and gratitude to the whole office

00:48:10.809 --> 00:48:13.000
everybody kind of like oh my goodness We're doing

00:48:13.000 --> 00:48:15.639
something good. We're actually helping people,

00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:17.460
right? It's important to have those reminders.

00:48:17.559 --> 00:48:18.900
And I think it's also a good reminder for us

00:48:18.900 --> 00:48:23.119
that when somebody has an impact on us, to also

00:48:23.119 --> 00:48:26.440
then do something or say something to them. Let

00:48:26.440 --> 00:48:29.320
them know how they impacted us in a positive

00:48:29.320 --> 00:48:31.440
way. Show that gratitude. Yeah, that's got to

00:48:31.440 --> 00:48:32.960
be rewarding. I think that's cool that they did

00:48:32.960 --> 00:48:35.650
that. Plus who doesn't like a big giant, you

00:48:35.650 --> 00:48:38.309
know, chocolate covered. Oh, they were delicious

00:48:38.309 --> 00:48:40.030
too. Yeah. And the fact that they brought it

00:48:40.030 --> 00:48:41.670
for everyone, I mean, you can tell they were

00:48:41.670 --> 00:48:44.550
very grateful. That's awesome. Yeah. So one of

00:48:44.550 --> 00:48:47.630
the other quotes that I have here is from Esther

00:48:47.630 --> 00:48:50.690
Pearl. And she said, I think this just fits so

00:48:50.690 --> 00:48:52.269
beautifully what we're talking about here. The

00:48:52.269 --> 00:48:54.590
quality of our relationships determines the quality

00:48:54.590 --> 00:48:57.849
of our lives. And this is not exclusive to romantic

00:48:57.849 --> 00:49:02.489
partnerships. And so for you, when we're talking

00:49:02.489 --> 00:49:04.469
about relationships, we're talking about love.

00:49:04.769 --> 00:49:07.670
Tell me what that quote means to you. Is that

00:49:07.670 --> 00:49:09.510
overstating it or do you think that that really

00:49:09.510 --> 00:49:10.949
resonates? Do you think that's true? The quality

00:49:10.949 --> 00:49:12.969
of our relationships determines the quality of

00:49:12.969 --> 00:49:16.349
our lives. Oh, my gosh. Yes. Because you're not

00:49:16.349 --> 00:49:18.190
living your life just with the person that you're

00:49:18.190 --> 00:49:21.030
romantically involved with. In fact, right. You

00:49:21.030 --> 00:49:23.409
know, during the school year, I spend more waking

00:49:23.409 --> 00:49:26.969
hours with people without my wife, you know,

00:49:26.969 --> 00:49:30.469
than without the, you know, the romantic. person

00:49:30.469 --> 00:49:34.130
in my life yeah and so i better have you know

00:49:34.130 --> 00:49:35.949
high quality relationships with these people

00:49:35.949 --> 00:49:38.929
i'm interacting with every day because that's

00:49:38.929 --> 00:49:42.849
you know that's well like a job where you work

00:49:42.849 --> 00:49:45.309
it's not just what you do it's who you work with

00:49:45.309 --> 00:49:49.409
yeah you know um and i think We all have people

00:49:49.409 --> 00:49:51.090
that we might struggle working with, but we have

00:49:51.090 --> 00:49:53.369
to make it work. And sometimes you have to take

00:49:53.369 --> 00:49:55.769
somebody that you maybe have nothing in common

00:49:55.769 --> 00:49:57.250
with, but you have to work with. And you have

00:49:57.250 --> 00:49:59.829
to make it a quality relationship or at least

00:49:59.829 --> 00:50:02.949
a productive one from a working standpoint. But,

00:50:03.070 --> 00:50:07.969
I mean, there are people in my life that I have

00:50:07.969 --> 00:50:11.050
amazing, I feel like, you know, relationships

00:50:11.050 --> 00:50:15.449
that were of extreme quality. And obviously they

00:50:15.449 --> 00:50:19.400
weren't romantic. You need, it's a balance. I

00:50:19.400 --> 00:50:22.119
think if you have just one and not the other,

00:50:22.239 --> 00:50:25.579
then it's hard. I think that's kind of what she's

00:50:25.579 --> 00:50:27.420
alluding to, that you need both. You need both.

00:50:27.480 --> 00:50:28.920
Yeah. Because she's saying like, yeah, definitely

00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:30.420
romantic relationships certainly are part of

00:50:30.420 --> 00:50:31.659
this, right? That's going to help determine the

00:50:31.659 --> 00:50:34.900
quality. It's also other relationships too. Right.

00:50:35.000 --> 00:50:37.380
Right. And when you have quality relationships,

00:50:37.619 --> 00:50:40.380
your life is just better. Yeah. It's just better.

00:50:40.480 --> 00:50:43.119
Oh, yeah. And you learn so much. And I've learned.

00:50:44.559 --> 00:50:47.340
And sometimes in my relationship with my wife,

00:50:47.539 --> 00:50:52.519
the non -romantic parts that I've learned, I've

00:50:52.519 --> 00:50:54.199
been able to carry that over in relationships

00:50:54.199 --> 00:50:58.780
of just friends and vice versa. So again, that

00:50:58.780 --> 00:51:01.579
both relationships help the other. For sure.

00:51:01.719 --> 00:51:04.579
Yeah, they definitely do. So when we kind of

00:51:04.579 --> 00:51:07.960
come back to the film here, right? Yeah. Where,

00:51:07.960 --> 00:51:11.000
you know, they've gone on this journey of really

00:51:11.000 --> 00:51:14.559
Robert. Being able to like, Giselle breaks down

00:51:14.559 --> 00:51:17.360
his walls, right? Because he's so guarded. He's

00:51:17.360 --> 00:51:19.840
so guarded. He's so jaded. He's a divorce attorney.

00:51:20.139 --> 00:51:22.400
He's been divorced. She just doesn't have hope

00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:24.760
for happily ever after, what it means. And just

00:51:24.760 --> 00:51:27.559
slowly over time, he's starting to see that love

00:51:27.559 --> 00:51:30.360
that she shows to everybody else so freely. I

00:51:30.360 --> 00:51:31.420
think that's one of the most beautiful things

00:51:31.420 --> 00:51:33.980
about it is that she just loves everybody. She's

00:51:33.980 --> 00:51:36.219
so kind to everybody, whoever she runs into.

00:51:36.559 --> 00:51:39.519
And that really starts to rub off on him. And

00:51:39.519 --> 00:51:41.079
he starts to see that there's something more

00:51:41.079 --> 00:51:45.800
there. And so towards the end, she's she's just

00:51:45.800 --> 00:51:49.739
bitten this poison apple. Right. And she's seemingly

00:51:49.739 --> 00:51:52.119
kind of dying in his arms. Right. That's kind

00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:56.159
of where we're at in this in this film. And he

00:51:56.159 --> 00:51:59.760
suddenly in this moment of like his walls are

00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:01.760
finally dropping and he's finally starting to

00:52:01.760 --> 00:52:03.780
realize what Giselle means to him. Like despair.

00:52:04.219 --> 00:52:06.880
And then he says, please don't leave me. Yeah.

00:52:06.920 --> 00:52:08.820
You know, and you just feel it in that moment.

00:52:08.900 --> 00:52:12.460
Yeah. Of like, OK. he's finally he finally gets

00:52:12.460 --> 00:52:16.119
it he finally gets who she is and and what that

00:52:16.119 --> 00:52:19.300
love means right and you kind of see the the

00:52:19.300 --> 00:52:23.019
story kind of come full arc there as finally

00:52:23.019 --> 00:52:25.659
his walls are down finally he's admitting like

00:52:25.659 --> 00:52:30.900
what what how she's changed him um and it wasn't

00:52:30.900 --> 00:52:32.980
like an easy moment for him to get there right

00:52:32.980 --> 00:52:34.679
it was actually a really hard thing for him to

00:52:34.679 --> 00:52:37.539
get there how do we sometimes hold ourselves

00:52:37.539 --> 00:52:41.380
back from embracing these relationships that

00:52:41.380 --> 00:52:43.679
we could have in our lives embracing love embracing

00:52:43.679 --> 00:52:46.960
um you know the influence other people can have

00:52:46.960 --> 00:52:50.119
on us if we'll just like let our walls down what

00:52:50.119 --> 00:52:52.219
what why do we sometimes hold ourselves back

00:52:52.219 --> 00:52:54.460
from that that's interesting i just had this

00:52:54.460 --> 00:52:56.340
conversation yesterday with a co -worker along

00:52:56.340 --> 00:52:59.159
these lines um and he said to me he goes sean

00:52:59.159 --> 00:53:01.579
he goes you he goes i don't mean this in a negative

00:53:01.579 --> 00:53:05.440
way but you're much more initially trusting of

00:53:05.440 --> 00:53:11.150
people than i am and You know, is it through

00:53:11.150 --> 00:53:14.050
just life experiences? I don't know. You know,

00:53:14.050 --> 00:53:17.650
why we are the way we are. And maybe a good psychologist

00:53:17.650 --> 00:53:20.530
could break that down, a therapist or something.

00:53:20.670 --> 00:53:23.190
But I think it's just a lot of it has to do with

00:53:23.190 --> 00:53:27.309
trust. Yeah. And experience. We kind of alluded

00:53:27.309 --> 00:53:30.429
to that earlier. I did feel for him, though,

00:53:30.469 --> 00:53:33.809
like when he says, don't leave me, it's like

00:53:33.809 --> 00:53:35.289
he finally, like he said, he showed that sign

00:53:35.289 --> 00:53:38.750
of, I understand you now. I get you now. Oh,

00:53:38.769 --> 00:53:42.010
my gosh, am I too late? Yeah. And so I think

00:53:42.010 --> 00:53:43.929
that's where they kind of grip your heart in

00:53:43.929 --> 00:53:45.989
the movie. But I think it has to do with trust.

00:53:46.230 --> 00:53:52.909
I think we put up a wall. And I've noticed, in

00:53:52.909 --> 00:53:55.570
my opinion, this is my own personal experience,

00:53:55.650 --> 00:53:59.570
but I feel like bigger cities, there's more of

00:53:59.570 --> 00:54:02.909
these walls. Sure. I go to Knoxville, Tennessee,

00:54:03.130 --> 00:54:06.420
where my biological father. moved back to and

00:54:06.420 --> 00:54:08.800
we did have a relationship you know he passed

00:54:08.800 --> 00:54:12.639
away unexpectedly in a boating accident but when

00:54:12.639 --> 00:54:14.840
I went back to I'd go back to Knoxville Tennessee

00:54:14.840 --> 00:54:18.260
and I could be filling up gas in my car and start

00:54:18.260 --> 00:54:20.400
talking and tell my life story to someone there

00:54:20.400 --> 00:54:24.340
and I don't know if it's you know just smaller

00:54:24.340 --> 00:54:26.739
town people tend to trust each other more but

00:54:26.739 --> 00:54:30.519
the trust you put up these walls because you

00:54:30.519 --> 00:54:32.960
don't want to get hurt Burn because maybe you

00:54:32.960 --> 00:54:35.059
put yourself out there. And that may be the other

00:54:35.059 --> 00:54:37.400
thing. Maybe he he'd put himself out there a

00:54:37.400 --> 00:54:40.039
lot and got burned. And so that's right. Yeah,

00:54:40.119 --> 00:54:41.880
I think that's right. You know, we it's definitely

00:54:41.880 --> 00:54:45.579
fear. Right. It's fear that we're going to put

00:54:45.579 --> 00:54:47.719
ourselves out there and be rejected. Right. It's

00:54:47.719 --> 00:54:50.880
fear that we'll be hurt. And this fear just holds

00:54:50.880 --> 00:54:53.760
us back, holds us back from more quality connection,

00:54:54.039 --> 00:54:56.119
more quality relationships. And then I think

00:54:56.119 --> 00:54:59.699
increasingly, too, what we see is is. As technology

00:54:59.699 --> 00:55:02.320
becomes more and more prominent, it's creating

00:55:02.320 --> 00:55:04.460
more and more disconnection. It's easier for

00:55:04.460 --> 00:55:07.699
many people just to open their phone and start

00:55:07.699 --> 00:55:10.599
scrolling rather than keeping it in their pocket

00:55:10.599 --> 00:55:13.280
and having a conversation. Because it's not easy

00:55:13.280 --> 00:55:16.019
sometimes, right? To just like strike up a conversation,

00:55:16.079 --> 00:55:17.960
especially if you're out of practice, especially

00:55:17.960 --> 00:55:20.199
if you don't do it very often. I think a lot

00:55:20.199 --> 00:55:23.480
of times too for kids, it's hard. We were in

00:55:23.480 --> 00:55:26.679
this discussion the other day at a family dinner

00:55:26.679 --> 00:55:29.800
on Sunday night that in the school district that

00:55:29.800 --> 00:55:32.119
my kids are in, really it's in the entire state

00:55:32.119 --> 00:55:35.179
of Utah, but they have this new policy. You know

00:55:35.179 --> 00:55:36.860
about it, I'm sure more than anybody, about not

00:55:36.860 --> 00:55:38.519
having your cell phones. Bell to bell, right?

00:55:38.639 --> 00:55:40.820
From the beginning bell to the end bell that

00:55:40.820 --> 00:55:43.460
you can't have your cell phone, you can't have

00:55:43.460 --> 00:55:45.840
it open at all. Like it's got to stay put away

00:55:45.840 --> 00:55:48.679
the entire day. And there are many kids that

00:55:48.679 --> 00:55:52.079
are freaking out about it. And yet one of the

00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:54.960
things that I think we're all kind of hoping

00:55:54.960 --> 00:55:56.760
happens. I think that the legislature when they

00:55:56.760 --> 00:55:58.400
put into place is hoping happens. I think many

00:55:58.400 --> 00:56:00.760
parents are hoping happens is that we start to

00:56:00.760 --> 00:56:05.000
see more of kids connecting, right? Because there's

00:56:05.000 --> 00:56:07.639
been so much more disconnection because of phones,

00:56:07.679 --> 00:56:10.699
because of electronics, but creating more connection

00:56:10.699 --> 00:56:12.599
because you can't just revert your phone. You

00:56:12.599 --> 00:56:15.239
actually have to talk to somebody. Yeah. I don't

00:56:15.239 --> 00:56:17.679
remember where I got the phrase. Somebody coined

00:56:17.679 --> 00:56:21.550
the phrase disconnect to connect. Which I think

00:56:21.550 --> 00:56:24.590
is so true. Yeah. You talk about in the classroom,

00:56:24.809 --> 00:56:27.710
you know, if somebody's on their phone, we even

00:56:27.710 --> 00:56:29.949
said this a lot of times in basketball practice,

00:56:30.050 --> 00:56:32.130
you know, be where your feet are. You know, I

00:56:32.130 --> 00:56:34.469
mean, you can be standing there or sitting there

00:56:34.469 --> 00:56:37.949
and, you know, you're enthralled, you're deep

00:56:37.949 --> 00:56:42.349
into whatever's on your phone. And sometimes...

00:56:42.679 --> 00:56:46.039
In fact, we do, we call it, you know, there's

00:56:46.039 --> 00:56:48.420
a thing called speed dating. Yeah. Well, we called

00:56:48.420 --> 00:56:52.019
it speed friendshiping. And I stole that lesson

00:56:52.019 --> 00:56:54.139
from somebody else. But we try to do it near

00:56:54.139 --> 00:56:57.539
the beginning of a class. We did it even with

00:56:57.539 --> 00:56:59.239
our basketball team for team building stuff.

00:56:59.559 --> 00:57:02.460
But you basically, I would ask, I'd have a topic

00:57:02.460 --> 00:57:05.099
and I'd say, you know, if you had a million dollars,

00:57:05.300 --> 00:57:07.719
you know, what would you do? And they would be

00:57:07.719 --> 00:57:12.000
sitting across from someone and you have. Ones

00:57:12.000 --> 00:57:14.380
and the twos. I'd say ones, you got 45 seconds.

00:57:14.400 --> 00:57:17.420
Share that response to the twos. And then the

00:57:17.420 --> 00:57:19.760
twos would go. And then I'd have the ones stay.

00:57:19.920 --> 00:57:21.599
And then the twos would all shift and rotate

00:57:21.599 --> 00:57:23.199
to the next seat. So now there's a new person

00:57:23.199 --> 00:57:28.119
in front of them. New prompt. When you grow up,

00:57:28.139 --> 00:57:30.239
what are some careers you could see yourself

00:57:30.239 --> 00:57:33.420
pursuing? Whatever. But I mean, and when the

00:57:33.420 --> 00:57:37.019
lesson was presented to me. I was like, Robert,

00:57:37.239 --> 00:57:42.079
I'm like, this sounds so lame. I can't get these

00:57:42.079 --> 00:57:44.179
kids to talk in class. It's always the same four

00:57:44.179 --> 00:57:46.400
or five kids responding. And I feel like it's

00:57:46.400 --> 00:57:48.639
me and four or five kids with 40 others listening.

00:57:49.219 --> 00:57:52.539
But every time I've done that activity, they

00:57:52.539 --> 00:57:56.559
love it. And they get to talk and they get to

00:57:56.559 --> 00:57:59.619
just share what's on their mind. So it's in all

00:57:59.619 --> 00:58:03.179
of them. Like you said, technology has made us

00:58:03.179 --> 00:58:05.900
lock into our phones. I can't imagine what it's

00:58:05.900 --> 00:58:07.539
like. I'm sorry for being long -winded on this

00:58:07.539 --> 00:58:11.099
answer, but I can't imagine what it's like. I'm

00:58:11.099 --> 00:58:13.559
59. Cell phones have been in our lives for 20

00:58:13.559 --> 00:58:16.699
years. And yeah, I'm on my phone more than I

00:58:16.699 --> 00:58:20.960
should be. But these kids, it's all they know.

00:58:21.440 --> 00:58:24.139
And like I said, their brains are still developing.

00:58:24.260 --> 00:58:25.659
And maybe they go home and maybe they're just

00:58:25.659 --> 00:58:27.360
on their phones all day when they're at home.

00:58:27.579 --> 00:58:30.199
So it's got to be even more of a challenge for

00:58:30.199 --> 00:58:33.710
them. break free out of that but yeah that lesson

00:58:33.710 --> 00:58:36.489
did it surprised me the teacher you know it's

00:58:36.489 --> 00:58:39.989
interesting um there there's some real support

00:58:39.989 --> 00:58:44.409
for that with some studies so um allison brooks

00:58:44.409 --> 00:58:47.690
wrote a book called talk and she did a ted talk

00:58:47.690 --> 00:58:51.079
on it and I think she's a Stanford professor,

00:58:51.280 --> 00:58:53.400
I want to say. Hopefully it's Stanford. It might

00:58:53.400 --> 00:58:55.260
be Harvard. I can't remember which one. It's

00:58:55.260 --> 00:58:56.599
one of those. They're both good, right? It's

00:58:56.599 --> 00:59:00.539
one of the Ivy League schools. And in her book,

00:59:00.559 --> 00:59:03.179
she talks about an experiment that is so similar

00:59:03.179 --> 00:59:04.960
to what you just said. It's with adults, but

00:59:04.960 --> 00:59:08.519
the idea is in her talk acronym, the first...

00:59:08.800 --> 00:59:11.639
the first letter is t and it's for topic and

00:59:11.639 --> 00:59:13.579
moving topics that a lot of times in the art

00:59:13.579 --> 00:59:15.400
of having a conversation people don't understand

00:59:15.400 --> 00:59:17.760
like just move topics like have a topic and then

00:59:17.760 --> 00:59:19.880
move topics yeah and so when they would do this

00:59:19.880 --> 00:59:23.860
kind of like idea of speed dating with friendships

00:59:23.860 --> 00:59:25.420
relationships actually was like with her with

00:59:25.420 --> 00:59:27.139
her students that she would do it and then they

00:59:27.139 --> 00:59:28.699
did experiments with other just regular people

00:59:28.699 --> 00:59:31.059
it was like giving them assigned topics and having

00:59:31.059 --> 00:59:33.559
them move topics actually they love doing it

00:59:33.559 --> 00:59:35.780
yeah like random things too it didn't have to

00:59:35.780 --> 00:59:37.800
be anything like earth shattering they were talking

00:59:37.800 --> 00:59:39.840
about but just like being comfortable like oh

00:59:39.840 --> 00:59:41.500
i have a topic i can talk about it yeah and then

00:59:41.500 --> 00:59:43.480
they did and they connected yeah it's like wow

00:59:43.480 --> 00:59:45.559
yeah it's so amazing put down your phone and

00:59:45.559 --> 00:59:48.000
we can actually talk yeah it's It's refreshing,

00:59:48.119 --> 00:59:50.239
you know, and we keep talking about it and we

00:59:50.239 --> 00:59:52.739
need to do it more at home. We keep saying how

00:59:52.739 --> 00:59:54.860
we're going to put our phones down and just having

00:59:54.860 --> 00:59:56.900
this conversation, you know, and with my wife

00:59:56.900 --> 00:59:58.880
being here, I'm sure maybe this is a good thing.

00:59:58.940 --> 01:00:01.300
So I appreciate that. But, you know, it's just,

01:00:01.400 --> 01:00:05.389
yeah, I just think technology is. There's some

01:00:05.389 --> 01:00:07.230
positive things and there's some things that

01:00:07.230 --> 01:00:10.190
aren't so good. And that's one of the drawbacks,

01:00:10.230 --> 01:00:13.190
I think. Yeah. I think what we just have to continue

01:00:13.190 --> 01:00:16.329
to do is much like ourselves can grow. We have

01:00:16.329 --> 01:00:18.650
to learn to grow with what technology is to use

01:00:18.650 --> 01:00:21.110
it for the good things and then to try to make

01:00:21.110 --> 01:00:23.210
sure we're filtering it out for the things that

01:00:23.210 --> 01:00:25.369
aren't so good. Because like you said, technology

01:00:25.369 --> 01:00:27.010
can do some great things for us. It can really

01:00:27.010 --> 01:00:28.369
help us do a lot of things we could never do

01:00:28.369 --> 01:00:30.469
before. Now it's finding the balance, right?

01:00:30.570 --> 01:00:32.170
Finding, okay, how are we going to grow together

01:00:32.170 --> 01:00:33.730
with this technology? Right. How are we going

01:00:33.730 --> 01:00:36.269
to have it? Yeah. really helping us and not like

01:00:36.269 --> 01:00:40.139
hurting us. It's a great point. One of the things

01:00:40.139 --> 01:00:42.719
we'll do is, so we always like to do a couple

01:00:42.719 --> 01:00:44.059
of fun segments. I want to run you through real

01:00:44.059 --> 01:00:46.400
quick. One's called this or that. Okay. And so

01:00:46.400 --> 01:00:47.739
you're just going to tell me which one you think.

01:00:47.820 --> 01:00:50.539
Okay. And if it's controversial, I will call

01:00:50.539 --> 01:00:52.400
you out on it and I will tell you. No, I'm just

01:00:52.400 --> 01:00:54.059
kidding. No, I love transparency. You can be

01:00:54.059 --> 01:00:55.980
transparent with me. And then after that, we'll

01:00:55.980 --> 01:00:58.179
do a rapid fire, which is first thing that comes

01:00:58.179 --> 01:01:01.380
to your mind. And then what we'll do at the end

01:01:01.380 --> 01:01:03.940
is we'll circle back to this idea of relationships.

01:01:04.960 --> 01:01:08.199
and see what your actionable takeaways are that

01:01:08.199 --> 01:01:09.900
you would recommend that somebody could put into

01:01:09.900 --> 01:01:12.940
effect in their lives today or this week to start

01:01:12.940 --> 01:01:16.039
building stronger relationships or um helping

01:01:16.039 --> 01:01:18.340
show more love or receive more love from those

01:01:18.340 --> 01:01:20.239
in their lives okay so ready for this or that

01:01:20.239 --> 01:01:23.139
i'm ready okay here it goes okay this first one's

01:01:23.139 --> 01:01:24.980
going to be more related to the film okay to

01:01:24.980 --> 01:01:29.800
enchanted okay central park picnic or fairy tale

01:01:29.800 --> 01:01:34.090
ballroom dance Central Park Picnic. Yeah, we're

01:01:34.090 --> 01:01:35.989
going to go there too, right? You know my reason

01:01:35.989 --> 01:01:39.429
though? Tell me. When she runs around and saying,

01:01:39.530 --> 01:01:42.829
how do you know that she loves you? And she's

01:01:42.829 --> 01:01:45.869
going up to different people and Robert's trying

01:01:45.869 --> 01:01:48.739
so hard to... not, you know, come on, let's go.

01:01:48.880 --> 01:01:50.780
We got to be here. I just love that whole scene.

01:01:50.860 --> 01:01:53.559
I love Central Park in the daytime. In the daytime.

01:01:53.639 --> 01:01:55.500
Yeah. The nighttime I've heard in the nighttime,

01:01:55.639 --> 01:01:59.239
maybe not as safe, but I love Central Park. My

01:01:59.239 --> 01:02:01.239
wife and I have been to New York City a few times

01:02:01.239 --> 01:02:04.000
and we love doing e -bikes around the park. I've

01:02:04.000 --> 01:02:06.659
run around it a few times. Like Central Park's

01:02:06.659 --> 01:02:08.280
a good time. Definitely, definitely during daylight

01:02:08.280 --> 01:02:10.840
though. Okay. Here's, here we're going to go

01:02:10.840 --> 01:02:13.500
with some kind of sports themed. Okay. I like

01:02:13.500 --> 01:02:16.559
that. Man to man or zone defense? Man to man.

01:02:16.969 --> 01:02:19.909
You man -to -man guy. Lots of trapping, but man

01:02:19.909 --> 01:02:22.630
-to -man. Yeah. Yeah. How about a triangle in

01:02:22.630 --> 01:02:25.929
two? You ever pulled that out? We did. We did.

01:02:26.250 --> 01:02:29.630
This was years ago. I like to mix it up, though.

01:02:29.730 --> 01:02:31.989
Okay. Obviously, like if a team calls timeout,

01:02:32.030 --> 01:02:34.329
I'll go into a zone in the next possession. So

01:02:34.329 --> 01:02:36.269
it screws up the play that he just called timeout

01:02:36.269 --> 01:02:38.809
for. My old high school basketball coach used

01:02:38.809 --> 01:02:44.070
to say if we had done a zone defense back in…

01:02:45.239 --> 01:02:48.039
in the war, we'd still be a British colony. So

01:02:48.039 --> 01:02:49.900
that was his thing. So he was all about man -to

01:02:49.900 --> 01:02:51.360
-man. It's all about man -to -man. It's all about

01:02:51.360 --> 01:02:54.099
man -to -man. So I'm a man -to -man guy, yeah.

01:02:54.179 --> 01:02:58.079
See, I grew up... I was born in 82, so grew up

01:02:58.079 --> 01:03:01.400
mostly in the 90s. And we were huge Utah fans,

01:03:01.460 --> 01:03:03.679
huge Utah fans. Yeah, Majerus. Rick Majerus Day.

01:03:03.840 --> 01:03:06.079
Yes. And I remember him deploying the triangle

01:03:06.079 --> 01:03:09.780
in two against Arizona in March Madness. And

01:03:09.780 --> 01:03:12.340
I had never really heard of it before. I heard

01:03:12.340 --> 01:03:14.699
of Boxing One, like everybody had. And it worked

01:03:14.699 --> 01:03:17.340
so brilliantly. It was like, oh my gosh, this

01:03:17.340 --> 01:03:19.519
guy's a genius. I love that. I do like the triangle.

01:03:19.780 --> 01:03:23.300
Okay, buzzer beater or a blowout win? Oh, buzzer

01:03:23.300 --> 01:03:25.389
beater. You've got to love those, right? When

01:03:25.389 --> 01:03:28.070
you're on the winning side. That's true. If you're

01:03:28.070 --> 01:03:30.429
on the losing side, oh, so heartbreaking. I've

01:03:30.429 --> 01:03:31.670
been on those a few times. I always said I'd

01:03:31.670 --> 01:03:33.309
rather learn more from a one -point win than

01:03:33.309 --> 01:03:36.429
a one -point loss. But there's always something

01:03:36.429 --> 01:03:40.980
to gain from even blowouts on both sides. That's

01:03:40.980 --> 01:03:42.719
why we love March Madness. That's exactly right.

01:03:42.940 --> 01:03:45.539
I mean, I always tell everybody March Madness

01:03:45.539 --> 01:03:47.820
for me, that's my Super Bowl. Now, I love the

01:03:47.820 --> 01:03:49.840
Super Bowl, right? Like, it's so fun. I love

01:03:49.840 --> 01:03:51.960
football. It's three weeks long. But if I get

01:03:51.960 --> 01:03:54.739
one event, one sporting event in the year, it's

01:03:54.739 --> 01:03:57.059
March Madness. And for me, it's actually like

01:03:57.059 --> 01:03:59.559
the first two days as well. Yes. Like, I want

01:03:59.559 --> 01:04:02.059
to have all the games on. Like, I want to have

01:04:02.059 --> 01:04:03.500
them all up. I want to watch it the whole day.

01:04:03.579 --> 01:04:05.460
I always take those first two days off of work.

01:04:05.599 --> 01:04:08.219
And I'm just like soaking it in, watching buzzer

01:04:08.219 --> 01:04:11.079
beaters, watching Cinderella. Yeah. Like that

01:04:11.079 --> 01:04:13.619
is the best. I'm with you. I've incorporated

01:04:13.619 --> 01:04:15.980
my classes into it, you know, where I would just

01:04:15.980 --> 01:04:18.199
let them draw out of a hat and then their team

01:04:18.199 --> 01:04:19.960
won, you know, you get them Chick -fil -A. Oh,

01:04:20.019 --> 01:04:21.900
yeah. And then you have kids who aren't even

01:04:21.900 --> 01:04:23.420
interested in basketball wanting to watch it,

01:04:23.460 --> 01:04:25.400
you know. Oh, yeah. And I could always apply.

01:04:26.019 --> 01:04:28.400
Find March Madness. I could make it a health

01:04:28.400 --> 01:04:30.840
topic somehow. For sure. You totally can. You

01:04:30.840 --> 01:04:32.400
can find a way to apply everything, right? I

01:04:32.400 --> 01:04:34.179
love March Madness. We love it. Okay. How about

01:04:34.179 --> 01:04:37.820
this? Pre -game pep talk or halftime adjustment

01:04:37.820 --> 01:04:41.690
pep talk? Halftime adjustment. Okay. The main

01:04:41.690 --> 01:04:44.989
reason why is because pregame pep talk, if it's

01:04:44.989 --> 01:04:46.329
a team you've never played before, you're just

01:04:46.329 --> 01:04:48.650
basing it off film. Yeah. And it's them against

01:04:48.650 --> 01:04:52.010
another team. But you really, you know, I want

01:04:52.010 --> 01:04:57.710
to be able to assess on that team and the counters

01:04:57.710 --> 01:05:00.210
and the decisions. You counter their counter

01:05:00.210 --> 01:05:01.769
and things like that. What's taking place in

01:05:01.769 --> 01:05:03.630
that first half and the adjustments you make.

01:05:03.710 --> 01:05:07.789
That's the key. And plus, I feel like. Me personally,

01:05:07.949 --> 01:05:10.630
I felt like I was a better coach at halftime

01:05:10.630 --> 01:05:12.630
adjustments than I was pregame over the years

01:05:12.630 --> 01:05:17.050
because I felt like it was more, it's right there.

01:05:17.170 --> 01:05:20.429
This just happened. Maybe somebody's in foul

01:05:20.429 --> 01:05:22.269
trouble, so you can go out there. Maybe you can

01:05:22.269 --> 01:05:24.610
go in at someone more, but you can make those

01:05:24.610 --> 01:05:26.929
adjustments. Whereas there's still a lot of unknowns.

01:05:27.130 --> 01:05:30.349
Yeah. watching film and pregame. So I'm a half

01:05:30.349 --> 01:05:31.969
-time adjustment. I love that. Half -time adjustments

01:05:31.969 --> 01:05:34.030
are great. Okay. We're going to go to a little

01:05:34.030 --> 01:05:35.590
bit of Disney stuff here for a second. Okay.

01:05:36.030 --> 01:05:38.909
Rope drop or fireworks at the end of the night?

01:05:42.650 --> 01:05:45.909
That's a tough one. Especially for you with your

01:05:45.909 --> 01:05:48.510
rope drop stories. I mean, this is tough. I'm

01:05:48.510 --> 01:05:51.090
going to say rope drop because I remember as

01:05:51.090 --> 01:05:54.130
a kid when the fireworks would go off, there

01:05:54.130 --> 01:05:55.889
was this excitement, but there was also this

01:05:55.889 --> 01:05:59.079
part of me like... It's over. It's over. The

01:05:59.079 --> 01:06:01.079
night's over and you don't want it to end. So

01:06:01.079 --> 01:06:02.659
there's a little bit of melancholy in there.

01:06:02.739 --> 01:06:04.699
So you're just like, yeah, where's rope drop?

01:06:04.820 --> 01:06:07.159
It's all. Let's go, baby. Total excitement. Yeah.

01:06:07.199 --> 01:06:09.380
Like so pumped for the day. Yeah. I'm going with

01:06:09.380 --> 01:06:12.000
rope drop. I love that one. Okay. Matterhorn,

01:06:12.239 --> 01:06:15.199
which you've got some ties to, or the steam engine

01:06:15.199 --> 01:06:19.179
train. Steam engine train. Yeah. Yeah. I mean,

01:06:19.199 --> 01:06:22.440
it wasn't the first ride everybody wants to go

01:06:22.440 --> 01:06:24.159
to. It wasn't even the first ride I ever wanted.

01:06:24.219 --> 01:06:27.699
But if somebody said, you have one ride. You

01:06:27.699 --> 01:06:29.480
can only pick one and you'll never ride the other

01:06:29.480 --> 01:06:32.659
one again. What would it be? Without even second

01:06:32.659 --> 01:06:35.099
thought, steam engine. Yeah, I love that. Especially

01:06:35.099 --> 01:06:36.679
the part where you go through with the dinosaurs.

01:06:36.800 --> 01:06:39.159
Oh, yeah, of course. Of course, that's a great

01:06:39.159 --> 01:06:41.400
part. I mean, I always like the train too when

01:06:41.400 --> 01:06:44.280
it's like really hot out and I need a little

01:06:44.280 --> 01:06:47.019
bit of a break. Yeah. Yes. Let's just go on the

01:06:47.019 --> 01:06:50.519
train for a minute. Do you remember riding or

01:06:50.519 --> 01:06:53.559
reading up a ride called the People Mover? Oh,

01:06:53.579 --> 01:06:55.539
yeah, of course. So our big thing was we used

01:06:55.539 --> 01:06:57.539
to go to that place, I think it was the Astro

01:06:57.539 --> 01:06:59.300
Place or whatever, where that stage comes up

01:06:59.300 --> 01:07:00.940
out of the ground, you know, in Tomorrowland.

01:07:01.039 --> 01:07:03.400
Yeah. And we'd buy our, they were Astro Burgers.

01:07:03.960 --> 01:07:07.320
And we'd stuff them in our pockets and we'd go

01:07:07.320 --> 01:07:09.420
on the people mover. And we'd just ride out.

01:07:09.559 --> 01:07:11.699
And it's like you just said, we'd relax and we'd

01:07:11.699 --> 01:07:13.119
sit there. And we thought it was so cool, you

01:07:13.119 --> 01:07:15.960
know, eating our hamburgers, you know, and riding

01:07:15.960 --> 01:07:18.039
the people mover and all that. And I love that

01:07:18.039 --> 01:07:20.920
ride. That was a fun, just like take a load off

01:07:20.920 --> 01:07:23.039
a little bit. And there was never, it was one

01:07:23.039 --> 01:07:25.230
of those things where it's just that. conveyor

01:07:25.230 --> 01:07:27.610
belt just turning so there was never a line you

01:07:27.610 --> 01:07:30.110
just the ride slows down you hop in and you go

01:07:30.110 --> 01:07:32.630
you know that was a fun one yeah i i miss that

01:07:32.630 --> 01:07:34.670
being at disneyland they still have a disney

01:07:34.670 --> 01:07:37.030
world but i miss it being at disneyland i did

01:07:37.030 --> 01:07:41.210
i did enjoy that um okay churro or dole whip

01:07:41.210 --> 01:07:44.550
dole whip wait wait wait oh man dole whip dole

01:07:44.550 --> 01:07:47.489
whip look this is a tough one for me i i love

01:07:47.489 --> 01:07:50.010
the churros yeah but for me dole whip i've got

01:07:50.010 --> 01:07:51.489
to get the dole whip when i'm going to the tiki

01:07:51.489 --> 01:07:54.320
room You know, yes. Because when I do, it's like

01:07:54.320 --> 01:07:55.920
part of the experience. And there's something

01:07:55.920 --> 01:07:58.599
about the Tiki Room that to this day, I have

01:07:58.599 --> 01:08:00.599
to see it when I go there. And I love it every

01:08:00.599 --> 01:08:03.000
time. And that was so state of the art when I

01:08:03.000 --> 01:08:05.179
was a kid. I remember just like, how do they

01:08:05.179 --> 01:08:10.019
do that? Or the Lincoln thing. But I wonder,

01:08:10.099 --> 01:08:11.960
I'm sitting there thinking, I wonder if it'd

01:08:11.960 --> 01:08:14.780
be good if you took a churro and dipped it in

01:08:14.780 --> 01:08:17.539
a Dole Whip. Almost like dipping a Wendy fry

01:08:17.539 --> 01:08:19.880
into the frosting kind of situation. Okay. It

01:08:19.880 --> 01:08:21.899
would be worth at least one bite to try. Yeah,

01:08:21.920 --> 01:08:23.920
that might be worthwhile. The Disney Dole Whip

01:08:23.920 --> 01:08:27.060
is really good. Yeah, I do love it. Okay, Disneyland

01:08:27.060 --> 01:08:30.720
or California Adventure? Disneyland. Yeah. Do

01:08:30.720 --> 01:08:32.140
you like California Adventure or are you still

01:08:32.140 --> 01:08:34.039
just a Disneyland purist? You know what? There

01:08:34.039 --> 01:08:36.720
was a ride that we went on that I wasn't excited

01:08:36.720 --> 01:08:41.739
to go on. What was the one? Were you yours? You're

01:08:41.739 --> 01:08:44.439
soaring over things and they're throwing the

01:08:44.439 --> 01:08:46.779
scent out. You're smoking as you go. Soaring

01:08:46.779 --> 01:08:49.260
over California and then soaring over the world.

01:08:49.300 --> 01:08:53.180
And then recently they just updated it for the

01:08:53.180 --> 01:08:56.479
semi -sequentennial, whatever it is, for soaring

01:08:56.479 --> 01:08:59.579
over America. Oh. Yeah. See, and I love that.

01:08:59.600 --> 01:09:01.300
I mean, great rides. There's some great rides

01:09:01.300 --> 01:09:03.739
there, but there's just so much sentimental.

01:09:04.239 --> 01:09:06.960
There's so many things. I mean, we haven't talked

01:09:06.960 --> 01:09:09.100
about Tom Sawyer's Island. Oh, great. As a kid,

01:09:09.279 --> 01:09:13.159
I loved and just, I think every, I just, Disneyland,

01:09:13.420 --> 01:09:17.199
easily. I really enjoy the rides they have at

01:09:17.199 --> 01:09:19.439
California Adventure. There will always be a

01:09:19.439 --> 01:09:21.739
nostalgia for Disneyland. Yeah. That is, that

01:09:21.739 --> 01:09:23.859
can't be replaced. Like, I've gone to Disney

01:09:23.859 --> 01:09:26.640
World a few times. It's fantastic. I really enjoy.

01:09:27.340 --> 01:09:29.239
When given the choice stuff, I had to. It's Disneyland

01:09:29.239 --> 01:09:31.239
every time for me because of the nostalgia for

01:09:31.239 --> 01:09:33.600
me, right? Growing up going there, what it means

01:09:33.600 --> 01:09:35.840
to me, the things that are there. Well, and like

01:09:35.840 --> 01:09:38.760
if you – if your kids hadn't been to Disneyland

01:09:38.760 --> 01:09:40.659
before, I think you said you have one that's

01:09:40.659 --> 01:09:45.119
four, do you say? Six. She's six years old. If

01:09:45.119 --> 01:09:47.300
she'd never been there before and you were only

01:09:47.300 --> 01:09:49.060
allowed to take her to one park, I mean that's

01:09:49.060 --> 01:09:51.420
kind of how I was looking at it also. It's like

01:09:51.420 --> 01:09:54.279
– There's so many things I want them to see at

01:09:54.279 --> 01:09:55.899
Disneyland. Oh, yeah. Great things at the other

01:09:55.899 --> 01:09:58.220
one, too, but I want them to experience and see

01:09:58.220 --> 01:10:01.460
what I saw. And there's so many more things at

01:10:01.460 --> 01:10:05.130
Disneyland for young kids, too, right? In Fantasyland,

01:10:05.149 --> 01:10:07.029
there are so many rides they can go on there,

01:10:07.210 --> 01:10:09.569
right? You've got the Carousel. You've got Dumbo.

01:10:09.670 --> 01:10:12.050
You've got Snow White. You've got Alice in Wonderland.

01:10:12.289 --> 01:10:15.369
Peter Pan. Oh, that is such a great ride. To

01:10:15.369 --> 01:10:17.350
this day, it's such a great ride. Come on, everybody.

01:10:17.470 --> 01:10:20.430
Here we go. You know, and there's so many things

01:10:20.430 --> 01:10:22.789
stuck in my head. I don't know if you knew this

01:10:22.789 --> 01:10:24.890
or not. And I just found this out not too long

01:10:24.890 --> 01:10:27.789
ago. And I even Googled it, so it's got to be

01:10:27.789 --> 01:10:31.689
right. But the name Wendy originated from the

01:10:31.689 --> 01:10:35.649
book and Peter Pan. I did not know that. And

01:10:35.649 --> 01:10:38.369
I looked it up and if you ever get some time,

01:10:38.390 --> 01:10:41.569
look into it, but find something different. But

01:10:41.569 --> 01:10:44.090
that's what they say. It originated Wendy. It

01:10:44.090 --> 01:10:46.329
was Wendy was like short for Gwendolyn or something

01:10:46.329 --> 01:10:48.970
like that. But the name Wendy was first used

01:10:48.970 --> 01:10:51.609
in Peter Pan. Wow. I did not know that. Yeah.

01:10:51.689 --> 01:10:53.630
There you go. Yeah. Fantastic. I didn't believe

01:10:53.630 --> 01:10:55.510
it. I Googled it and I'm like, man. You're like,

01:10:55.630 --> 01:10:57.029
well, I guess it's true. Yeah. It might be true.

01:10:57.189 --> 01:10:59.930
Yeah. It might be true. It might be true. Okay.

01:11:00.029 --> 01:11:02.449
Here's our last this or that. Fantasyland or

01:11:02.449 --> 01:11:09.970
Tomorrowland? I don't know. That's a tough one.

01:11:10.029 --> 01:11:12.369
I intentionally made it hard. Yeah, that's a

01:11:12.369 --> 01:11:20.869
tough one. Okay. Basically, I'm saying Matterhorn

01:11:20.869 --> 01:11:24.170
or Pirates of the Caribbean. Is that what we're

01:11:24.170 --> 01:11:26.609
saying? No, that's Frontierland. That's Frontierland.

01:11:28.529 --> 01:11:30.689
Adventureland, it kind of is. I'm going to go

01:11:30.689 --> 01:11:32.920
Tomorrowland. Because you like Space Mountain,

01:11:33.000 --> 01:11:37.039
right? I like Space Mountain and Matterhorn.

01:11:37.560 --> 01:11:40.600
And when it first came out, I loved Star Tours.

01:11:41.140 --> 01:11:43.500
And that's right there at the beginning. And

01:11:43.500 --> 01:11:45.420
PeopleMover was there as well. It was? Yeah.

01:11:45.500 --> 01:11:51.739
So I'll go to Marlin. And back in the day, this

01:11:51.739 --> 01:11:54.380
was never unheard of, but you would go in these

01:11:54.380 --> 01:11:56.680
rooms and you could put money in. It's like a

01:11:56.680 --> 01:12:00.659
pay phone. But it was... You didn't have to use

01:12:00.659 --> 01:12:02.279
a phone. You could just talk. So you could call

01:12:02.279 --> 01:12:04.819
people. And it's no big deal now. It's just using

01:12:04.819 --> 01:12:07.640
speakerphone with our phones. But it was unheard

01:12:07.640 --> 01:12:09.140
of back in the day. So I remember we'd always

01:12:09.140 --> 01:12:10.800
go over there and we'd call home and say, hey,

01:12:10.800 --> 01:12:12.560
mom, dad, I'm at Disneyland. But you're just

01:12:12.560 --> 01:12:13.960
sitting in this room talking to them and hearing

01:12:13.960 --> 01:12:16.239
their voice. It's so fun. And now it's like not

01:12:16.239 --> 01:12:18.460
a big deal. But back then it was huge. Yeah.

01:12:18.479 --> 01:12:20.340
Yeah. Totally different experience back then.

01:12:20.479 --> 01:12:22.819
Yeah. Okay. Here's our rapid fire segment. Okay.

01:12:23.180 --> 01:12:24.760
So just first thing that comes to your mind.

01:12:24.920 --> 01:12:26.680
Okay. Don't take it too serious. Okay. You ready?

01:12:27.020 --> 01:12:30.619
Here we go. Favorite Disney movie? Peter Pan.

01:12:30.960 --> 01:12:36.199
So good. Favorite Disney song? Boy, you caught

01:12:36.199 --> 01:12:37.699
me off guard on that one. Can we come back to

01:12:37.699 --> 01:12:39.220
that one? We can. This is the one that usually

01:12:39.220 --> 01:12:40.659
gets people. I should have prepped you before

01:12:40.659 --> 01:12:42.460
because this is the one that people usually gets

01:12:42.460 --> 01:12:43.899
because there's so many Disney songs. It's hard

01:12:43.899 --> 01:12:45.539
to think about which one it is. I know. Okay.

01:12:46.060 --> 01:12:47.779
Jiminy Cricket, When You Wish Upon a Star. Oh,

01:12:47.800 --> 01:12:52.289
yes. To me, it's... Like, I think there's so

01:12:52.289 --> 01:12:54.829
many good ones. I think that that movies, it's

01:12:54.829 --> 01:12:57.350
okay. Like Pinocchio. It's good. Like, I like

01:12:57.350 --> 01:12:58.689
it. And I watched it with my kids and I like

01:12:58.689 --> 01:13:01.649
it, but there's something that that song did

01:13:01.649 --> 01:13:04.550
that transcended. And there's a reason why they

01:13:04.550 --> 01:13:06.369
play that so frequently. They do the firework

01:13:06.369 --> 01:13:08.909
show at the end. There's so it's, there's a reason

01:13:08.909 --> 01:13:12.229
why it's in so many of the, the beginning movies

01:13:12.229 --> 01:13:14.470
where they show the castle and the star across

01:13:14.470 --> 01:13:18.359
it, because that song. It's just unbelievable.

01:13:18.680 --> 01:13:21.119
That song alone makes that movie incredible,

01:13:21.460 --> 01:13:24.560
just makes things magical. And that song for

01:13:24.560 --> 01:13:27.319
me, I mean, just thinking about the lyrics, it

01:13:27.319 --> 01:13:31.619
gives you hope. To me, it's like your dreams

01:13:31.619 --> 01:13:36.300
can come true. The lyrics are amazing. And who

01:13:36.300 --> 01:13:38.039
doesn't love Jiminy Cricket? Oh, yeah, Jiminy

01:13:38.039 --> 01:13:40.420
Cricket's great. Such a good answer. No one's

01:13:40.420 --> 01:13:42.579
answered that way yet on this podcast, so I love

01:13:42.579 --> 01:13:45.140
that answer. Okay, favorite Disney princess?

01:13:48.269 --> 01:13:50.569
I'm going to say Giselle because I love Enchanted

01:13:50.569 --> 01:13:52.510
so much. Okay, good. But there were some great

01:13:52.510 --> 01:13:55.310
ones, you know, but I'm going to say Giselle.

01:13:55.409 --> 01:14:01.869
Great answer. Favorite Disney hero? Actually,

01:14:04.170 --> 01:14:09.350
so many movies. Okay. This is – I don't know

01:14:09.350 --> 01:14:11.750
if he was a hero in the movie, but like in Fantasia,

01:14:11.890 --> 01:14:13.630
I mean, I don't – Mickey Mouse, I mean, he's

01:14:13.630 --> 01:14:16.029
the star of it. Yeah. I love it. But I don't

01:14:16.029 --> 01:14:17.350
know if he's the hero, but – We're going to call

01:14:17.350 --> 01:14:19.270
him the hero. He can be the hero. Yeah. I mean,

01:14:19.310 --> 01:14:21.949
to me, I just – Mickey Mouse is Disneyland to

01:14:21.949 --> 01:14:24.390
me. When we watched the Mickey Mouse Clubhouse

01:14:24.390 --> 01:14:26.130
with my granddaughter and they do roll call.

01:14:26.569 --> 01:14:28.649
Yeah. They do all that. But when she sees Mickey,

01:14:28.930 --> 01:14:31.170
that's when she smiles. Yeah. So there's something

01:14:31.170 --> 01:14:34.750
about Mickey. There is. He's – That's actually

01:14:34.750 --> 01:14:36.829
a great answer. No one's answered that way for

01:14:36.829 --> 01:14:39.529
it, but I absolutely agree. Mickey Mouse is a

01:14:39.529 --> 01:14:42.050
hero, and that's a great answer. He's Disneyland.

01:14:42.310 --> 01:14:45.590
He is. You know? He is. Favorite ride at Disneyland?

01:14:47.609 --> 01:14:49.890
Okay. You're probably not going to expect this

01:14:49.890 --> 01:14:52.409
answer because I'm so old school with my responses,

01:14:52.649 --> 01:14:55.869
but I loved Rise of the Resistance. It's so good.

01:14:55.970 --> 01:14:58.550
I thought it was so good. It was just something

01:14:58.550 --> 01:15:00.270
I hadn't experienced before. I love it. It's

01:15:00.270 --> 01:15:07.029
new, but... The ride, that really just, oh, man.

01:15:08.369 --> 01:15:12.810
The Haunted Mansion, I haven't memorized the

01:15:12.810 --> 01:15:15.010
whole part where you come in. Are these rooms

01:15:15.010 --> 01:15:17.029
actually stretching or is it just your imagination?

01:15:17.489 --> 01:15:21.970
I mean, that ride was so cool. Even when I go

01:15:21.970 --> 01:15:25.310
on, I feel so good. I think initially when I

01:15:25.310 --> 01:15:27.680
was a kid, Most fun I've ever had on a ride was

01:15:27.680 --> 01:15:29.899
probably Haunted Mansion. Pirates of the Caribbean

01:15:29.899 --> 01:15:33.300
was close second. But older now, like when we

01:15:33.300 --> 01:15:34.760
go, I'm like, I want to go on that Rise of the

01:15:34.760 --> 01:15:36.760
Resistance again. Probably because it's so new.

01:15:36.819 --> 01:15:38.880
Yeah. And I haven't been on it so many times.

01:15:38.880 --> 01:15:41.500
But it's also just so impressive. Yeah. You know,

01:15:41.520 --> 01:15:43.800
I remember first going on it and my comment at

01:15:43.800 --> 01:15:46.800
the time was, this is the greatest production

01:15:46.800 --> 01:15:51.539
of an attraction that's ever been created. Like

01:15:51.539 --> 01:15:53.920
the whole thing, right? Like you walk into that

01:15:53.920 --> 01:15:56.720
room and you see all the stormtroopers, the enormity

01:15:56.720 --> 01:15:59.300
of the room. And you're just like. You feel like

01:15:59.300 --> 01:16:01.020
you're on the desktop. You do. It felt exactly

01:16:01.020 --> 01:16:03.579
that way. They did such an amazing job creating

01:16:03.579 --> 01:16:06.119
that experience. That's a great ride. And like

01:16:06.119 --> 01:16:08.060
you mentioned, the trackless thing. Yeah. And

01:16:08.060 --> 01:16:09.899
I like the lightsaber going through the wall.

01:16:10.060 --> 01:16:12.340
Oh, yeah. Very. Yeah. They did a very nice job

01:16:12.340 --> 01:16:14.180
with that. Now, I do have to ask you with Haunted

01:16:14.180 --> 01:16:18.520
Mansion. Do you like the re -thing they do? with

01:16:18.520 --> 01:16:20.819
Nightmare Before Christmas. No, I'll tell you

01:16:20.819 --> 01:16:22.619
why. Oh, you don't? Well, here's the thing. Not

01:16:22.619 --> 01:16:24.720
that I don't like it. I do. No, no, no. It's

01:16:24.720 --> 01:16:27.079
not I don't like it. It's just every time we

01:16:27.079 --> 01:16:29.939
go, because it's newer technology, it always

01:16:29.939 --> 01:16:33.380
breaks down. Oh, yeah. In fact, the last time

01:16:33.380 --> 01:16:36.699
we were there was during Halloween, and we kept

01:16:36.699 --> 01:16:39.399
going to it. And sorry, folks, it broke down

01:16:39.399 --> 01:16:41.960
again. And so they finally told us it's newer

01:16:41.960 --> 01:16:45.880
technology on an old technology ride, so they

01:16:45.880 --> 01:16:48.220
always have problems. So that's why. It's not

01:16:48.220 --> 01:16:51.899
that I don't enjoy it. It's just that. If you

01:16:51.899 --> 01:16:53.939
can't go on it. It's always broken down. It's

01:16:53.939 --> 01:16:58.000
always broken. But yeah, I like it. But I prefer

01:16:58.000 --> 01:17:00.979
the old, the original one. Yeah, it's totally

01:17:00.979 --> 01:17:04.220
fair. Totally fair there. Okay. Favorite Peter

01:17:04.220 --> 01:17:05.899
Pan character? Because I know you like Peter

01:17:05.899 --> 01:17:09.500
Pan. Yeah. I mean, Peter Pan. Yeah. You know.

01:17:12.810 --> 01:17:15.750
I mean, Tinkerbell's pretty awesome, too. Tinkerbell's

01:17:15.750 --> 01:17:18.869
awesome. I really like Shmi. Oh, Shmi, okay.

01:17:18.970 --> 01:17:21.069
I love Shmi. I don't know what it is. I just

01:17:21.069 --> 01:17:23.569
think Shmi is just – I just laugh when Shmi's

01:17:23.569 --> 01:17:25.229
up there. It's just like a comic relief for me.

01:17:25.659 --> 01:17:28.300
And you know what's funny is that I love that

01:17:28.300 --> 01:17:30.319
you're asking these questions because I think

01:17:30.319 --> 01:17:32.819
we watch these movies and we always have a character

01:17:32.819 --> 01:17:34.500
that maybe we can relate to or something like

01:17:34.500 --> 01:17:37.520
that. But you love them all. Like Captain Hook,

01:17:37.619 --> 01:17:40.699
you know, he's the antagonist, but you love him,

01:17:40.760 --> 01:17:43.319
you know. And, you know, blast you, Pan. We used

01:17:43.319 --> 01:17:45.539
to always say that, you know. But his music is

01:17:45.539 --> 01:17:48.000
awesome, too. But I just, you know. peter pan

01:17:48.000 --> 01:17:51.020
was providing this magical place and did you

01:17:51.020 --> 01:17:53.420
did you ever watch hook yes with robin williams

01:17:53.420 --> 01:17:56.859
i love that movie yeah robin williams was amazing

01:17:56.859 --> 01:17:59.239
dustin hoffman was awesome that's right hook

01:17:59.239 --> 01:18:02.100
julia roberts was in it she was tinkerbell and

01:18:02.100 --> 01:18:04.140
she was terrific and you know who's in that too

01:18:04.140 --> 01:18:08.100
was gwyneth paltrow she plays wendy did she yeah

01:18:08.100 --> 01:18:11.500
i didn't realize that yeah and uh that was good

01:18:11.500 --> 01:18:13.199
robin williams did a great job yeah that was

01:18:13.199 --> 01:18:15.909
such a great show yeah that was good um Okay.

01:18:15.970 --> 01:18:20.010
Favorite Disney sports movie. Remember the Titans.

01:18:20.210 --> 01:18:22.850
I love that one. There's, you know, yeah. Remember

01:18:22.850 --> 01:18:25.510
the Titans. Yeah. I mean, that's, that's just

01:18:25.510 --> 01:18:27.609
a classic. Yeah. It's a great movie. Denzel was

01:18:27.609 --> 01:18:29.689
amazing in that. They were all amazing. Perfect.

01:18:29.789 --> 01:18:32.069
You know, a great movie. That's one thing that's

01:18:32.069 --> 01:18:33.770
about Disney. I love one of the many things,

01:18:33.829 --> 01:18:37.550
but they find the right actors. They cast really

01:18:37.550 --> 01:18:39.890
well. you know they cast the right people for

01:18:39.890 --> 01:18:42.069
some of these roles who you like yeah okay that

01:18:42.069 --> 01:18:43.909
was exceptional casting in that movie yeah uh

01:18:43.909 --> 01:18:46.409
from denzel washington uh playing the main coach

01:18:46.409 --> 01:18:48.529
the guy who played the other coach yeah the bb

01:18:48.529 --> 01:18:51.550
assistant coach he was terrific the the athletes

01:18:51.550 --> 01:18:54.670
that they had in there and the the back and forth

01:18:54.670 --> 01:18:56.930
that they had the way that they i mean you just

01:18:56.930 --> 01:19:00.409
felt you felt it and you felt the them honoring

01:19:00.409 --> 01:19:03.489
what actually happened in real life for that

01:19:03.489 --> 01:19:05.569
because it's based on true events like they did

01:19:05.569 --> 01:19:07.449
a really nice job with that and the young uh

01:19:07.449 --> 01:19:10.920
what's his name from the notebook I remember

01:19:10.920 --> 01:19:12.840
his name. Ryan Gosling. Ryan Gosling's in that.

01:19:12.880 --> 01:19:14.340
The young Ryan Gosling's in that. I remember

01:19:14.340 --> 01:19:17.220
him trying to dance in the locker room. But yeah,

01:19:17.300 --> 01:19:20.319
and you love all those characters, all those

01:19:20.319 --> 01:19:23.939
players. Yeah, for sure. Well, so as we kind

01:19:23.939 --> 01:19:26.680
of wrap up, what we always love to do, as I mentioned,

01:19:26.760 --> 01:19:28.920
is we like to get some actionable takeaways.

01:19:29.100 --> 01:19:31.579
What we believe in is trying to give people some

01:19:31.579 --> 01:19:33.600
real things that they could go put into effect

01:19:33.600 --> 01:19:35.659
and put into action in their life right now.

01:19:36.039 --> 01:19:38.140
And so if you were to say, like, what are three

01:19:38.140 --> 01:19:41.689
things that somebody could do? today or this

01:19:41.689 --> 01:19:47.630
week to build stronger relationships or to Have

01:19:47.630 --> 01:19:49.789
a little bit more love in their life or help

01:19:49.789 --> 01:19:52.090
break down their walls a little bit more like

01:19:52.090 --> 01:19:54.130
rubber did What would three things that you would

01:19:54.130 --> 01:19:57.050
give to somebody be? That's a tough question.

01:19:57.149 --> 01:20:00.329
Um, I Mean there was one that popped in my head

01:20:00.329 --> 01:20:03.989
right away Listen more talk less. Okay, when

01:20:03.989 --> 01:20:06.130
you're when you're trying to if you're If it's

01:20:06.130 --> 01:20:07.909
a new relationship or even if it's a current

01:20:07.909 --> 01:20:11.590
relationship, listen more. What's that saying?

01:20:11.670 --> 01:20:16.329
We have two ears and one mouth. Because that's

01:20:16.329 --> 01:20:18.229
part of what we talked about earlier is getting

01:20:18.229 --> 01:20:21.670
to know someone. The only way you can get to

01:20:21.670 --> 01:20:23.850
know someone is like we're both listening to

01:20:23.850 --> 01:20:25.369
each other and that's how we're getting to know

01:20:25.369 --> 01:20:29.550
each other. So I think that's one. I think another

01:20:29.550 --> 01:20:33.289
one is be more forgiving. That's something that

01:20:33.289 --> 01:20:37.920
I – I try to do, you know, like I said, nobody's

01:20:37.920 --> 01:20:41.500
perfect, but I need, you know, just to be more

01:20:41.500 --> 01:20:43.800
forgiving. And by the way, you know, you're asking

01:20:43.800 --> 01:20:46.000
my opinion. I don't claim to be an expert in

01:20:46.000 --> 01:20:49.979
any of these things, but just be more forgiving

01:20:49.979 --> 01:20:52.979
to people because, you know, we all, none of

01:20:52.979 --> 01:20:55.760
us are perfect, you know, and sometimes I think,

01:20:55.760 --> 01:20:58.359
you know, we put pressure on ourselves. You know,

01:20:58.399 --> 01:21:01.159
we're always trying to. be accepted, please people

01:21:01.159 --> 01:21:03.880
and all that. And if we're not forgiving of people,

01:21:04.060 --> 01:21:06.659
then people might not feel that acceptance that

01:21:06.659 --> 01:21:10.720
they want. But, you know, if we all live, and

01:21:10.720 --> 01:21:12.500
I'm sorry for this answer, it'll be a little

01:21:12.500 --> 01:21:15.460
longer, but, you know, there's some videos by

01:21:15.460 --> 01:21:17.539
Dove, Dove Soap. I don't know if you've seen

01:21:17.539 --> 01:21:20.609
some of them. They're amazing. But they do these

01:21:20.609 --> 01:21:22.869
– they use three different parts of the world.

01:21:22.909 --> 01:21:24.449
That way they said it wasn't just for the area.

01:21:24.550 --> 01:21:26.710
One was in America. One was in an Asian country.

01:21:26.810 --> 01:21:29.750
I forgot. But it says they had these doors walking

01:21:29.750 --> 01:21:32.869
into an office building, you know. And it says

01:21:32.869 --> 01:21:37.550
beautiful and average. And they just wanted to

01:21:37.550 --> 01:21:39.390
see what people would walk through at doors,

01:21:39.590 --> 01:21:41.550
you know. And then after they'd walked through

01:21:41.550 --> 01:21:42.869
them, they'd pull them to the side and they'd

01:21:42.869 --> 01:21:44.369
interview them and ask them, why did you pick

01:21:44.369 --> 01:21:49.039
that, you know. And it was amazing how – Many

01:21:49.039 --> 01:21:50.979
people just chose the average door. And you're

01:21:50.979 --> 01:21:52.920
looking at these people going, they look like

01:21:52.920 --> 01:21:55.199
they're confident. But on the inside, they're

01:21:55.199 --> 01:21:57.380
not. I don't know. Just being more accepting

01:21:57.380 --> 01:22:06.340
of people I think would be huge. And, well, for

01:22:06.340 --> 01:22:10.979
a relationship, I'm going to go back to what

01:22:10.979 --> 01:22:15.800
we said, the unconditional love. Just be unconditional

01:22:15.800 --> 01:22:20.460
love. i i love i think i mean i know it sounds

01:22:20.460 --> 01:22:22.319
a little bit what i said earlier but just be

01:22:22.319 --> 01:22:25.039
accepting be accepting of others you know and

01:22:25.039 --> 01:22:26.979
i think as we do that we can start to do what

01:22:26.979 --> 01:22:29.319
you suggested earlier which is understanding

01:22:29.319 --> 01:22:32.680
that our relationships we're all growing and

01:22:32.680 --> 01:22:35.239
becoming somebody different and embracing the

01:22:35.239 --> 01:22:37.560
fact that we are and growing together rather

01:22:37.560 --> 01:22:39.659
than apart when we are becoming somebody different

01:22:39.659 --> 01:22:42.399
and we can do that by By loving unconditionally,

01:22:42.579 --> 01:22:46.060
by being more accepting and forgiving of those.

01:22:46.140 --> 01:22:48.260
When we do make mistakes and we do things that

01:22:48.260 --> 01:22:50.819
are goofy and, you know, like I do stuff and

01:22:50.819 --> 01:22:52.520
I'm a bonehead all the time. And thankfully my

01:22:52.520 --> 01:22:54.319
wife's very forgiving, right? Because make those

01:22:54.319 --> 01:22:56.159
mistakes. But as we do that, then we can start

01:22:56.159 --> 01:22:58.159
to grow closer together. Well, and, you know,

01:22:58.180 --> 01:23:00.739
I feel like, and I talk about this with students,

01:23:00.819 --> 01:23:07.100
my life has become easier when I have less contention

01:23:07.100 --> 01:23:09.119
in my life. And I feel like I have less contention

01:23:09.119 --> 01:23:11.989
in my life. When I'm more kind and accepting

01:23:11.989 --> 01:23:14.069
and all those things, you know, when you just,

01:23:14.109 --> 01:23:17.789
it's so much easier to be kind than it is to

01:23:17.789 --> 01:23:21.710
nitpick or to judge others. Because a lot of

01:23:21.710 --> 01:23:24.029
that sometimes comes from our own insecurities.

01:23:24.069 --> 01:23:27.890
Right. But I think sometimes you just, you know,

01:23:27.890 --> 01:23:29.970
my last 20 years of my life has been a lot easier

01:23:29.970 --> 01:23:32.689
because I feel like I've tried, let go of all

01:23:32.689 --> 01:23:35.949
the, all that stuff. Sure. You know, the, the

01:23:35.949 --> 01:23:38.649
worldly stuff and just, just. Just enjoying the

01:23:38.649 --> 01:23:41.369
moment, you know, and just loving people and

01:23:41.369 --> 01:23:44.050
all that. And there's less stress in my life,

01:23:44.170 --> 01:23:45.550
you know, and I try to share that with others.

01:23:45.649 --> 01:23:47.550
I think back when I was in high school, I wasn't

01:23:47.550 --> 01:23:49.970
always the nicest kid and there was always contention

01:23:49.970 --> 01:23:53.289
in my life, you know, back then. And so, you

01:23:53.289 --> 01:23:56.770
know, it's just, just be kind and just life,

01:23:56.850 --> 01:23:59.949
life, a lot easier. I feel for sure. Well, thank

01:23:59.949 --> 01:24:01.729
you so much for being on with us today. Thanks

01:24:01.729 --> 01:24:03.449
for having me. Such a fun conversation to be

01:24:03.449 --> 01:24:05.579
able to learn about. You and your family heritage,

01:24:05.819 --> 01:24:09.720
learn how Disney, Disneyland, Disney movies have

01:24:09.720 --> 01:24:12.140
shaped and affected you, but also what you've

01:24:12.140 --> 01:24:13.699
been able to do for others because of that as

01:24:13.699 --> 01:24:16.579
you have helped raise a wonderful family, as

01:24:16.579 --> 01:24:19.420
you have had so much influence on students, on

01:24:19.420 --> 01:24:21.260
people that you've coached, and you continue

01:24:21.260 --> 01:24:23.020
to have that same influence. So what a pleasure

01:24:23.020 --> 01:24:24.659
speaking with you today. I appreciate it. Thanks

01:24:24.659 --> 01:24:26.979
for letting me share memories, especially my

01:24:26.979 --> 01:24:29.220
mom and papa. They were amazing. So I appreciate

01:24:29.220 --> 01:24:31.619
you letting me bring them back to life and share

01:24:31.619 --> 01:24:33.560
a little bit about them to people who didn't

01:24:33.560 --> 01:24:37.189
know them. As you leave this conversation, remember

01:24:37.189 --> 01:24:40.229
that yes, the past can hurt and you can either

01:24:40.229 --> 01:24:43.590
run from it or you can learn from it. So here's

01:24:43.590 --> 01:24:47.189
to learning and finding joy in the journey. See

01:24:47.189 --> 01:24:47.689
you real soon.