Beauty and the Beast and Taking On New Chapters | with Sybrina Ely from Kimber Capital

0:00 So I was a stay at home mom for 25 years and I wanted to challenge this other part of me that I knew that I had. And it was like, I know that I have something out there to give. I didn't know exactly what it was and posture syndrome to a T. I deal with it every single day. I think every time I walk into a room of really intellectual people who have been in the industry for 30 years, it just led me to this idea of I think it's okay to just Go. And just do. She warned him not to be deceived by appearances, for beauty is found within. It actually makes me a little bit choked up. Don't ever underestimate somebody and also accept the journey that you've been given. There are those really gory, ugly parts that you think, I'm not gonna make it through this. And then when you do, you go. I'm so much better that I got that opportunity to have that really horrible thing happen. You can choose courage or you can choose comfort, but you cannot have both. 100%.

1:06 Welcome to Yes And Land, where we say yes to the reality of yesterday and today, and we say and to the possibility, growth, and imagination of tomorrow. So excited to have you here today, Sabrina. We're gonna be talking today about some fun things, but as a quick introduction, I mean, so you've got this awesome company, Kenbury Capital, and we're gonna talk a little bit about your journey to get there, to having this cool company that you're the owner of, which is awesome, and what gave you the strength to do that. We're gonna talk about new chapters and taking on new challenges. And we're going to do that through the lens of Beauty and the Beast today, which is pretty fun. Like one of the, you know, one of the best Disney movies ever, right? Early, early 90s. We call that the Disney decade or the Disney Renaissance, where Disney had struggled for a few years in the early 80s. And then they had this kind of Renaissance when they brought on Michael Eisner. Started with Little Mermaid, but then... quickly thereafter was Beauty and the Beast, which was just like this huge hit, this phenomenon, right? Amazing movie. Probably shaped your growing up much like it did mine.

2:26 Completely. Yeah. So we're excited to kind of go through what some of that is today with you. So first off, let's start with what your background is. What's your journey, where it started, all the way up into kind of where you are today with your company? So. As far as like my journey goes so I was a stay -at -home mom for 25 years 25 years and how many kids did you have? I had two kids two kids and a daughter and so fun Yep, now they're grown up and out of the house and moving on with lives of their own. Do you have any grandkids yet? Oh, no No, not yet Let's not push that yet. Let's not push it yet. But I hear it's the greatest I'm excited for I'm very much looking forward to it and sharing this Disney experience with my kids is the one thing that I can't wait for so yeah, so when those those little grandies come around. It's gonna be a whole nother chapter of what life looks like for me. Did y 'all go to Disneyland at all? We did. So I wouldn't say that we were a Disney family. We were Disney movie watchers. So we did end up in Disney World a handful of times, and then also Disneyland a handful of times.

3:34 And funny story, the last time I was in Disneyland was in 2024. Okay, it's a couple years ago. Just a couple years ago. And to go with your kids, when they are adults is a unique experience because they have all of the parts of Disney that they remember and they want to get those things in. And you're going, oh, but there's, you know, there's the Peter Pan ride and there's Mr. Toad's wild ride. And, and you want to have those younger experiences with them. And they're going, oh no, we have a completely different experience of what Disneyland looks like. So it's fun to, it's fun to kind of see that you don't ever out of it you don't ever grow out of it when I watched Beauty and the Beast when I was I'm not gonna say how old I was but when I was younger you know it was a different experience as from when I watched it you know five years ago and it's like you see the themes and the thing that's really great about Disney is that the themes fall in line for every age group and everybody can get something out of it and so it was interesting when I a couple years ago I read kind of the preeminent biography on Walt Disney. And in there, it talked about that when he was first making Snow White specifically, right, the first full -length animated feature, he made it designed to be for everybody, including adults. It was not designed to be a kid -only movie at all.

4:58 In fact, he took pride in the fact that as he made movies, that they were supposed to be for adults as well. And I think... Certainly there's some now because there's are so many that were clearly designed for kids You know some of those straight to Disney Channel or Disney Plus were designed for kids But yeah, there's a lot of themes throughout the Disney movies, especially the full -length animated features that There really are, you know, lessons that you can pull, but also things that are fun for adults to see as well. Things that maybe only adults even get as far as the humor goes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Because you don't have littles, so I'm sure you don't know Bluey. I don't know Bluey. But my goodness, with Bluey, like, my kids absolutely love it, especially my five -year -old. But the writers are so clever, because there's definitely things as an adult, I'm like, oh yeah. I feel those parents' pain with those little ones. The dad and the mom and that show are hilarious and it's it's just great because and I can enjoy it with them Yeah, and it's that they don't even understand like they have no idea what the pain of the parents is, right? But I relate but then it's like you're not in pain watching the show because you're going oh my gosh I can completely relate to this.

6:05 Yeah. Yeah, so there's there's a lot of things like that in some of these Disney movies And I also think with most things right like is anything perfect. No Could you always make the argument that? certain things are outdated, yes. But I also think when you want to kind of have a growth mentality and learn from things and look a little deeper, there's lots of things that you can learn from. In anything that I see or I read, it's never like I'm gonna follow 100 % of what it says. You know, it's like, okay, let me pull out the good things. I can kind of disregard the other things, but even when I read a really good book, it's that same thing, right? Like, oh, I read this amazing self -help book, but it's still, I'm gonna use like 10 % of it. And I think that's the case with Disney movies, especially when I hear like criticisms of some of them, like, okay, yeah, look, that's fine, yeah. There's some things that aren't great, but. Other things are yeah, I mean I I think about watching Disney movies when I was I was really young and it was like Why do they always have that scary part?

7:02 You know and then like even my kids as they were growing up. It would be like they would inch a little bit closer on the couch during, you know, like kind of those more intense scenes and the score of the movie, just anticipation and and then like the loveliness of like a slower scene. And and I think that they they're really, really true, great storytellers and just. watching that and putting that in line with like, it really our whole lives are a story. And if we take it too serious, and we don't just look at that as, you know what, this is the really, really scary part of my story. And this is the really lovely part of my story where I get to slow down and enjoy this really beautiful scene. I think that it gives us an opportunity to, you know, just live life in a cinematic way. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's it's part of why storytelling is so important. And it's why throughout human history, we've engaged in storytelling because it's what life is, right? We are all engaged in a story.

8:02 Are you familiar with the movie Brave? Yes. Oh, you are. OK, I was thinking maybe you weren't because your kids are too old. But yeah. So that movie, speaking of scary parts like my daughters, who are 10 and five, they still don't love watching it because of the scary part with the with the the bear. Sure. The bad bear. Right. I think it's more do. Yeah, because it is so scary for them. It's like that. I don't want to watch that dad. I'm like, no, no, it's really great Yeah, it's such a good movie and then the same time fast -forward fast -forward fast -forward Yeah, like hey, that's what I need to tell them. Hey, we can fast -forward past a couple parts there and then one day you'll appreciate it Yeah, yeah, that's exactly right. Yeah, so you're you were a stay -at -home mom for 25 years I was so what was it that made you decide to? Do something with business like what did that look like for you? So I think i've always had an entrepreneurial spirit i've always enjoyed creation So I like being creative um, and when you're a stay at home mom, you can have that fall into the sense of Decorating your home or making a delicious dinner or you know helping your kids get dressed for school and so Creation looks a little bit different on that side and I wanted to challenge um this other part of me that I knew that I had and it was like like I know that I have something out there to give. I didn't know exactly what it was. And when I was picking my business selfishly, I picked it around my kids. And I threw a dart.

9:25 And so it was kind of like what would fit into both of my kids are college athletes. And so I wanted to have the freedom of traveling to their sporting events. I wanted to have the freedom of when I do have grandkids. I want to be the fun grandma. I want to be the first one to call up and say, send them over. I've got them for a week. Take a cruise with your hubby, whatever that looks like. And so I really wanted the flexibility and autonomy of owning my own business. And so being, I would say, a little bit courageous and fearless in the sense that if I don't try it, I'll never know. And so I just... took a leap and went for it and Here I am three years later, and I think that I have another good 15 20 years left in me So I have a full another Book if you want to call it that it's a chapter Maybe I don't know if it might be a series a series of books that sure yeah You might this might be your trilogy, right? This is like book two of your trilogy.

10:30 Yeah, I'm with you Yeah, so this could be book two. Okay. Yeah, I love it. So One thing I want to ask you about, that I just heard, is that your kids are college athletes. Yes. Which is so interesting. I think there's so many lessons from kids playing sports. Yes. What are they athletes in? What are their sports? So my daughter was a college rodeo barrel racer. Whoa, that's intense. Yes. And so she went to the University of Wyoming and was a barrel racer there. Seems like the right place to go if you're in barrel racing. It was an experience for all of us. And I will tell you, I got to relive my college years through her college years. We had an absolute blast. since graduated and gotten married and moved to Oklahoma with her with her spouse. My son is currently in his senior year of baseball.

11:13 My husband hates when I say this, but people will say what is your son majoring in and I'll say baseball. It's what he loves. It's what he's doing. It's his passion and giving them the opportunity to get lost in both of those things was a real gift for us. For sure. Yeah. Does he have an idea of what he wants to do once he finishes his senior year? Because I think yeah, I think he has a little entrepreneurial spirit. You know, I think that when we sit around the dinner table, we talk about business and we talk about ideas and we talk about. psychology and relationships and how all of this forms the way that you kind of move through life. So I anticipate he'll end up in some type of business. He's right now it's business entrepreneurship is his major. Okay.

12:00 And so yeah, he'll go down the same road. Well, I think I think it's interesting. I think a lot of times you'll see collegiate athletes end up being either salespeople or entrepreneurs. Because there's something I think that they've learned in that about building relationships beyond their immediate family. And really close bonds of relationships. And those both can be beneficial for what those long -term relationships are with those individuals or people they meet along that, but also the ability and skills to build close relationships. because as you know being an entrepreneur like you have to build relationships it doesn't work if you aren't able to effectively build relationships.

12:42 I completely agree and I think that it's it's about um there's there's a game plan behind it too. I heard somebody say you know there's a lot of sports um and baseball is a game. they were saying how they thought that baseball wasn't a sport and it was a game and I thought oh that's really intriguing because I think business is a game sure and so I think every morning when I wake up I'm going what's my game plan what am I going to do today who do I need to meet who have I met in the past that I haven't connected with most recently so keeping those relationships alive building on those ideas it's like constantly meeting with people and going, what are you doing in your business that I'm not implying in my business? Right. And so I do I think that I think relationships are incredibly important and making that maybe top priority, you know, and for me, I'm a people person, I love to just chat with people and dig into what there's what what is going on in their psychology? What are you guys doing? What's creative that you're creating that?

13:47 I didn't think of and how am I going to take that and morph it into what it looks like in my business. I meet with a lot of people that are in very diverse businesses. So I don't know anybody locally that does the same thing that I do. However, I have a lot of really great business best friends that we play off of each other. And so after this, I'm heading to a meeting about what are we gonna do for the next four months and how are we gonna hold ourselves accountable and having those relationships is important in entrepreneurship. For sure. And one of the things that I think you said that I wanna dig in just a little bit more is the way in which you described building those relationships because I think it's best done when it springs from a genuine interest. And what those things are that you're asking about. Because if you're just asking just to check a box so that you can find out what they can do for you, that's like disaster. It doesn't work. And I think being an entrepreneur, if you're not authentic, my most valuable asset that I have is my time. So even though I spend most of my time on my business, Having those relationships that are authentic and real and a give and a take are Far more important than just a really quick. Hey, what are you doing?

15:15 You know, it's it's really diving in and going What changed you what what did you do last year that you are eliminating this year? So just getting really deep when you are getting into those relationships. For sure. Yeah. So you stay at home, mom, for quite a while. You decide to take on this new challenge. You shape it around a decision to make sure that you can have freedom and flexibility of your time. What does it look like when you're actually starting it then? What did it feel like emotionally when you're starting it? And what were the practical steps you took? So when I did this, I really went into it with the mindset of, hey, I have these two really great kids.

16:00 I did pretty good. What if I just ran a business the same way that I ran my family? And so the idea was just keep doing what I am already doing, just apply it in a different way. So I do think that... Being a stay -at -home mom, being a parent, being a stay -at -home father, being all of those things, you're running a business. I don't think that there's much difference between, well, other than the emotion of your kids, but you've got the emotion of your employees, right? I don't see much difference in what I've applied to my business as to what I applied during that time frame of raising a family. Which I think is really interesting. One of the things that I think Really helps for anybody who's a stay -at -home parent is my experience with stay -at -home parents is most the time they're doing it for the right reason Yes, so their their why or their purpose is really locked in they understand the import of the Responsibility it is to be a parent. You know what it is that you're doing as a parent Why you would want to spend this time with these kids what it is you're trying to do? Beyond yourself and when you can take that same beyond yourself mentality, that greater purpose mentality to a business endeavor, then you're able to be more purpose driven and successful because you can carry that forward. And I had never thought about it in that way until you just said that. Yeah.

17:22 Yeah. And I think there's so many skills that go hand in hand with it. It's like the patience of, you know, your kid does something and you go. That's not the hill that I'm going to die on. So I'm going to let that go. I'm going to let them be the CEO of their own life. And I think that that's the same way as dealing with a client. I think it's the same way as dealing with an employee or a business partner or a referral partner or even, you know, somebody who's helping you build your business. I think it's all just making sure that you're in alignment with the greater picture. We're going to roll this into kind of Beauty and the Beast a little bit. I'm going to work through your story a little bit more. Yeah. I've written down a few quotes that I want to get your take on as we go. OK, let's do it. Beauty and the Beast kind of starts with this underlying kind of narrator who's talking about this prince in a castle, right? Yep. And this old, you know, lady, this haggard lady shows up with a rose and is wanting to have, you know, safety and protection from this horrible storm that's happening outside. Yes. And she just basically says she'll give him this rose if he'll let her in, right? And he turns her away. And then the narrator says this line that I want to get your take on. She warned him not to be deceived by appearances for beauty is found within. So that kind of frames up this whole story, right? Totally frames up. She warned him not to be deceived

18:54 by appearances for beauty is found within. So tell me about what that overall means to you. First off of the story, but more importantly for a decision to leave comfort and start something new. It actually makes me a little bit choked up. So give me a second to just... Catch my breath Don't ever underestimate anybody sure like Everybody you know Everybody is there for the purpose of the good and had had he Accepted her and all of her beauty even though she didn't look like what she was delivering If I remember correctly it was like with this rose, he got all of this greatness. And I mean, he already was a prince and had all of these wonderful things. But it could have really escalated into something more.

19:53 It's, it's almost a double edged sword, because then I also think, did he have to go through what he had to go through to become the person that he was? And so I think there's really two ways to look at it. And it's like, don't ever underestimate somebody. And also accept the journey that you've been given. That is so insightful because I think it's exactly right. If he didn't know it when she was there initially, which he didn't, then she was giving him the journey to go on so he could learn it. Because that's exactly what he had to learn. Yes. Because he didn't appreciate it. He didn't appreciate that beauty comes from within. And so he had to experience that firsthand. She was actually teaching him.

20:34 I didn't think about it that way. Yeah. that really that was that was the gift to him. That was his true gift. Even though I'm sure it didn't feel like it initially, right? His greatest accomplishment. And I think that we can both agree in starting a business and owning a business. There are those really gory, ugly parts that you think, I'm not going to make it through this. And then when you do you go, I'm so much better that I got that opportunity. to have that really horrible thing happen. And I'm so grateful that I had that presented to me in a really surprising manner.

21:15 And so I think that all of that, you get these little surprises throughout life and the way that you handle them and the way that you move through them. I hope I'm not like the beast. I hope it doesn't take me years and flowers dropping, but. but sometimes it does and maybe a beautiful girl needs to walk into my life and let me know like hey you're beautiful too and and it's about what's on the inside and and choose love you know i think that those are really great messages for sure what what fears showed up for you when you were first thinking about this change and then starting this change to this new business you were doing oh all of them imposter syndrome to a T, I deal with it every single day. I think every time I walk into a room of really intellectual people and business minded individuals who have been in the industry for 30 years. And here I come in, you know, and I'm just excited and, and, you know, naive. And so I just do things without thinking. And I think, I'm not sure what the question was, but it just led me to this idea of I think it's okay to just go and just do. Yeah. Yeah. Fears hold us back from a lot of things. Yes. And the fear of that step and the fear of failure many times holds people back.

22:43 Did it take you a while to overcome that fear? Or once you decided, did it just kind of, you just went? I think I overcome it every day. So I think it depends on the situation. I think that there's an event that you'll attend and you'll feel inadequate. I think that there's an event that you'll attend and you'll feel like the expert. And I think there is a scene in Beauty and the Beast where she says, step out of the shadow. And she wants to see. Who is her capture? Yeah, and it's like she sees him and at first she's really taken it back and then it's like she has kind of this softness that overcomes her and goes Well now that I faced you it's not too bad Yeah when it comes to fear and especially as you were taking it the the step to start a business mm -hmm was your fear a fear of failure or was it more of a fear of Judgment from others.

23:47 I'm so embarrassed for this answer. Judgment of others. Don't be embarrassed by that at all. We are all thinking about judgment of others all the time. We all do. It's totally human. Judgment of others. I want to appear that I have it all together, and sometimes I'm just riding the wind. It's like, this is where this is taking me and I'm just gonna do it. As far as fear goes, I think that fear can be a little bit fun. It can be really great, right? And I think it's a good learning opportunity for all of us to find that part of us that goes, gosh, I did this really scary thing and it was not scary at all.

24:33 And I overcame it and gosh, what a funny story to tell. What a fun story for me to go. I had this horrible thing happen. I was afraid I kicked the can down the road for three months. I Didn't follow through on my commitments. I self -sabotaged I did all of these things to make sure that I didn't have to face the beast coming out of the shadow But then it's like you see it and you go, huh? Well, that was really Not not at all was I was expecting so I think many times the fear that we have we tell ourselves The worst possible case scenario and one that might not even actually possible right that we just convince ourselves Is what might happen that then holds us back? Yeah, but I think to your point if if we can accept that we will have fear Mm -hmm, and that that's not a bad thing and then take those opportunities to face that fear, it can lead to something really great. It can lead to growth, obviously, and it can lead to new adventures that we otherwise wouldn't do. It's so interesting when I think about that in the context of rides at Disneyland, okay? My kids are just the best, and we love going to Disneyland and Disney World, and each kid kind of goes through these phases of being scared of certain rides, right? My 13 -year -old son, very conservative in his willingness to try new things. He is the pickiest eater that

26:06 I know. For a long time, like a lot of the rides he didn't like, like Pirates of the Caribbean. Because there's a drop. And it's not even that big. But it's dark. But it's dark, and there's a drop, and it kind of gives you a little... And it's ominous. Yeah, and it gives you a little feeling in your tummy. And there's some music. So he didn't like it. Even when he was like 10 and 11 and 12, didn't like it. I'm like, this is not that scary of a ride. So then his sister, who's 10, and at the time it was first trend that she was eight, barely tall enough to go on the Incredicoaster. You know what the Incredicoaster is, right? It's the roller coaster, right? With the loop. She's like, yeah, I want to go on it. And he's like, wait. My little sister's going, she's three years younger than me. My little sister's going on it? Like, hold on. And so he's had this fear for a long time, and because she was willing to, she empowered him to, a little bit of that fear of judgment, to be honest. Like, I can't have her do it, not me, what's everyone gonna think? But then does it. Yeah. And now it's his favorite ride. It's his favorite ride.

27:03 For a kid that didn't even like pirates because it had a little bit of a drop, now he can do the Incredicoaster. And it's like he grew two feet that day on shore. Yes, absolutely. And realized like, okay, I overcame that fear and I actually got to experience what now is my favorite ride. That I was holding myself back from experiencing because I wasn't going to. And sometimes, I'm kind of thinking out loud with you, sometimes it does take that encouragement from somebody else. I was just going to circle back to that and say... that's where those important relationships come into play. Because you can call that friend and say, okay, I'm doing this. And can I call you when I'm done? Because I'm not sure I'm gonna, I'm not sure I'm gonna nail it. I don't know what's gonna happen. And to hear them be your hype person and go. you've got this you have done this this way you've done this this way and you've exercised this this way and you implemented this in your business and look at where you were last year at this time and then you hang up the phone and you go okay i have all the courage in the world but i had to borrow it from my friend yeah and that's the beauty of of having people that we have a sense of belonging with yes it's something we all need yeah i talk about this a lot where there's there's kind of these four core human needs, and one of them is a sense of belonging. We all need it. Even if we're introverts, we still need a sense of belonging. We just do, and when you have that, you can draw on that strength. Okay, so another quote. It's gonna be very similar, but I like it because it's like

28:33 one of the funny, corny, like, dad jokes that's in the show, but it fits, okay? So you remember Cogsworth, right? He has a little clock, and he's making a... He's making a joke, right? And his joke is, if it's not Baroque, don't fix it. In other words, if it's not Baroque, don't fix it, but Baroque being the joke that he was playing off of. And so with that, how does that fit into this idea of the comfort trap that sometimes people fall into? If it's not Baroque, don't fix it. I almost wonder, are we ever really done? Are we ever really done? with everything. There's always an opportunity to fix it. There's always an opportunity to revisit it because the person that you are when you start your business is not the person that you are when you're five years in. And so it may not be broke, but there might be a newer, fresher style coming around the corner. You know, there's that Renaissance of we're not. We're no longer in the broke period.

29:41 So I think that there's always an opportunity to readdress everything in your business. And you're not going to do it all the time. It's you're not going to readdress every single thing. You would drive yourself mad. But there's always an opportunity to revisit and grow and adjust. Yeah. Yeah. I think this fits perfectly in line with a quote I've used in the past on this podcast, but when I was kind of going through this, it just came up naturally, which is by Brené Brown, who we both adore. You can choose courage or you can choose comfort, but you cannot have both. 100%. Because if we're going to try to fix something or change something or do something, there is courage that it takes. It took courage for you to say, I'm not going to be a stay at home mom anymore. I'm going to do something. Not only am I going to do something, I'm going to do something a lot of people wouldn't do because it's really scary, which is I'm going to start a business.

30:37 I'm going to go out there and start a business. It's all on me. I got to go figure the whole thing out. I have no steady paycheck to rely on. I have no employer to rely on. It's all on me. And that takes a great amount of courage. So you take this chance, this opportunity, and obviously it takes a ton of courage to do. How did it end up playing out and say the first year that you did it? What challenges did you face? Do you know, I think because of how naive I was in starting the business, I didn't have many challenges the first year. I think it was the second year when I really started to look at myself and go, okay, this isn't just about fun and learning anymore. I'm a real advocate of self growth and development. And so that first year I was just literally let's just throw whatever to the wall and let's see what sticks. Let's try this. Let's try that. Let's learn this thing.

31:32 Let's go to this class. Let's get this education. And it was all about fun. And it was all about the journey. And it was all about building. And it was all about just me developing a different side of myself that I didn't. develop for a little bit. And like I said, I do believe that parenting is running a business. Building a family is running a business. And at the same time, that first year was just it was just a party. And then it was the second year that I went, Oh, this could be real. I I could actually be really successful at this and I could make something out of this and I could maybe have a little bit of legacy that I leave behind and and so I kind of went into that phase or chapter if you will and then it kind of turned into oh my gosh people are noticing me I don't like that I'm going to retreat and kind of hide a little bit fear of judgment of others right nobody was saying that I was doing it wrong nobody was saying that it wasn't the fastest way there. Nobody had any judgment upon me, but all of a sudden I went, did I waste a full year of my time? And now I look back and I go, it's my personality. If it's not fun, I'm not going to do it. And so it has to be fun.

32:53 It has to be something that I enjoy. It has to bring me growth. It has to bring curiosity out of me. And so I think it wasn't until that second year that I started to go, oh, this is a serious thing. And now that I'm in my third year, I'm going, not only is this a serious thing, this is a fun thing. And so it's been the combination of that first year and that second year that's now gotten me to this this third year and now almost my fourth year. So this is like this is so good. So there's a really famous author, public speaker. She's a professor. I think it's Stanford currently, Angela Duckworth. Okay, I've not heard of her. She wrote a book called Grit. Okay. And she also did a TED Talk by the same name, Grit.

33:38 So she did TED Talk first, then she wrote the book afterwards. And in it, she wrote, enthusiasm is common, endurance is rare. Yes. I mean, that fits so perfectly with what you're talking about. I love that. Right? Because... when you're starting a new adventure, once you overcome that initial fear, you do have some enthusiasm about it. That's why you're doing it. Hey, this is pretty exciting, this is new, I'm gonna try this thing, I'm gonna try that thing. What then separates, and this is the argument Dr. Duckworth makes in her book, what separates then those who are high achievers versus not is the ability to endure past where that enthusiasm starts to wane a little bit because sometimes things get hard. And when things get hard, if you can persevere, through those then that can take you to success whereas a lot of people take that opportunity then hit a wall and they quit they stop doing it they go do something else because they can't push through that initial enthusiasm bump so what got you past that initial like okay you've got enthusiasm for it In your second and in your third year, you still want to be fun But that enthusiasm kind of wall sounds like you kind of hit what what changed? What did you do to say? Okay, that happened. That's kind of worn off. I'm gonna keep going. What kept you going? Community, okay. Yeah, tell me more surrounding myself with like -minded people putting myself in a position where when I can't pull myself through I have somebody I can rely on and it's somebody Um again, it makes me emotional.

35:11 Oh my gosh. I'm pretty teary today I have an incredible group of people who believe in me more than I believe in myself It makes such a difference. It does and I think we don't fully appreciate what that can mean For us until we're in it. Yeah, but also what influence we can have on others if we're that for somebody else, too Yes And i'm not letting any of those people down, right? If they're my biggest fan, I'm going to show up for them. I'm going to give them the best show that I can give them. I'm going to play the best game that I can play. I'm going to give everything that I've got because I don't want to go back to them and say, thank you so much for cheering me on. I just decided this wasn't for me. I'm not going to do that. That doesn't work. So yeah, I think community is really, really important. Something we both have in common is we both participate in a Chamber of Commerce.

36:09 We're both pretty involved in the South Valley Chamber of Commerce. What role has that played in you for helping you to build relationships and build community? Oh my gosh, the education piece that I have gotten from that community in and of itself, they push me. They put me on a panel. They do these things that take me out of my comfort zone. They introduce me to Ryan at RCG Law and says, come be on my podcast. And I go, I don't know. I can't breathe. What am I going to do? So I think it puts me in situations that I otherwise would not have been able to have the opportunity to show up in. and subscribe to our show, it helps us reach more people like you. We can design and create and build the most wonderful place in the world, but it takes people to make the dream a reality. You know, historically, when I started practicing law, the first firm that I started working for was a very entrepreneurial firm, for sure, and would encourage me to do things that were networking. But the really only thing that that was was BNI. And be nice fine.

37:25 It's great. And for some people who can yeah, just really embrace it. It's great Yeah, I still have not found a love for it for me. I always just felt like Everyone's being forced to use the other people in the group and what if somebody stinks, right? What if somebody's not very good or you know, I so I just like had this stuff kind of holding me back I think we're both entrepreneurs, so we don't want to be told what to do. That's exactly right. We chose to be the boss. I want to give a referral to somebody because I believe in them, not because they happen to pay a fee and show up in this group every week. And I don't want an assignment. My business is my assignment and I can't take on any more tasks. And so it's so, but yet, I'm going to say not but, and, we both have assignments with South Valley Chamber.

38:14 Right? It's a service. I think that's exactly right. See, I don't want to be a B &I bachelor because for some people it works so well and they can embrace it and it's great. Just for me, it hasn't. But I think you're right. In the South By Chamber, it's just an opportunity to serve that I've been provided. It is. And what's the difference for you with that? It's absolutely that. So in the other group, it's a situation where it feels like a task. And it's like, hey, I don't need any more assignments. But if I'm going to serve my fellow entrepreneur or my fellow business owner or somebody who's even an employee who's building a business for somebody else, if I can provide something, a relationship, a tool, a referral, an opportunity, To me, man, that just fills my heart. That inflates me all day long, and I just have nothing to learn but by giving. Yeah. Yeah. And initially, for me, when I joined the South By Chamber, I took the Business Accelerator class, which is where we met. Same, yeah. But then I was just like, OK.

39:18 I mean, I went, that's fine. It's OK, I got it. And I wasn't involved. What I found is when I could like embrace it and say okay there's actually something more here because I mean now for the last six months I've got a business partner here so Joey Carlson has come on but prior that it was just me and so when it's just you it's just all on your shoulders and there's there's so much more weight to it and I joined some yes other mastermind groups with like family law attorneys across the country which was great learned a lot from them invaluable but I didn't have people here And I'm kind of a social person.

39:59 And I realized I'm passing up all these opportunities to be involved in something where I can go and socialize without it having to feel like it's just people wanting something from me. And when I started to go more to some of the events and some of those things, I realized that there was a lot of people. like me in that regard. I'm not there just so I can go get some referrals for my firm. I'm there because I can learn from them. I can learn about their businesses. And if I happen to come across somebody that can use their businesses, great. But also if I can share some experience with them about, you know, that I've learned. So they don't have to learn that the hard way. Or they can do the same for me. started realizing the value of community like you said right the value of belonging to a group of people who really are just trying to do the right thing out there and they are and I think that there's a level in me where it's that stay at home mom. I'm a nurturer. I love to just go in and support somebody and be a part of something. We had an event just the other night with some young entrepreneurs who had an opportunity to present some business plans and to listen to them was so incredibly inspiring.

41:09 I went home that night and I readdressed my own business plan and the feeling that I got to look them in the eye and go You have a brilliant idea and what you have inside of you is needed out there in the world and don't quit Keep going keep doing like live that part of you, you know, I just to me Man, that just fills my cup for sure. And when when our cup is filled We can be the the best version of ourselves. Yes, you know, it's interesting after I you were a judge in that event, which was amazing I was just there as an attendee. Afterwards, I talked with a few of the participants, and one of them in particular had received a compliment from you during her presentation, and she was just beaming about it. And it just reinforced for me the impact that we can have on others when we'll recognize them, when we'll give them that encouragement, when we'll give them a sincere and genuine compliment, that it gives them that strength to do more and to... Go higher than they would otherwise again.

42:18 That's just kind of the value of that community, right? Yeah, so Okay, i'm gonna take us back to beating the beast real quick here. So a couple of a couple of different things and angles I think we can take here on this topic with beating the beast is first with marice bell's dad. Yeah, okay Yes, so tell me about bell's dad when it comes to this idea of like trying something new and not having the fear to do it How does that apply to marice? He he might I don't know, I have so many favorite characters in this movie. They have so many, I don't know who the writers were, but man, they nailed it. Maurice is so fun. I mean, he's curious, and he's interested, and he thinks outside the box, and he's got these great ideas, and he's going, oh, I don't know, it doesn't work, and then at the last minute, it's like, it worked, it worked, I'm going, I'm going to the show, I'm going right now, and then he runs off, and it's like the excitement that he has, and I think every entrepreneur has Maurice in him. Sure, you have to. Yeah, you have to.

43:24 To try new things, and... What's so interesting too about I think the relationship between him and Belle is when we look at Belle's willingness to not worry about the judgment of others. Right. Think that comes from her dad very clearly. Yeah, cuz he was unafraid of that Oh my gosh, and that whole town just devoured his curiosity like they just looked at him like what a kook Yeah, I guess I was a crazy old Maurice, right? Like off he goes again like you know, and so and then his poor daughter that you know She doesn't have this father figure that is traditional and and teaching her the way of the world and it's like she got the best education that she could by his Curiosity for sure. Yeah, and and I think in part two why we could probably say that led to her curiosity of of story and books and reading because she had this hunger for you know thinking about things differently and reading these stories and I mean and it's like again the writers did this intentionally obviously, but when Gaston is first trying to approach her right and she's got the book and he's like what are you doing reading and thinking like what are you doing yes you're too beautiful yeah thinking yeah right whereas like for her it's like yeah that's what everybody should do and i know that because i've got a father who's instilled that love for learning and curiosity in me Which I think is really interesting.

44:49 It kind of sets the stage for what her journey is. Total side note, but one of my favorite lines from Beating the Beast is he says, you know, and we'll have... strapping young men, six perhaps. And she goes, dogs? You know, and it's just like her ability to go, life is more fun than just, you know, strapping young men and doing things right. And let's just play with puppies and let's have fun. I mean, I really, it's one of my favorite lines. Yeah. Yeah. And it's so great too that she's just like, not interested in him. Not even in the least. You know, she sees well beyond, right? Not only is you sometimes have to ignore the appearance outside to understand the beauty within Beauty without can deceive from the lack of beauty with that from within which I think is what we see in Gaston, right? Maybe not a lot of substance there obviously a lot of substance.

45:46 Yeah, and and clearly doesn't really appreciate what the value of a partner Really right, right. It's just hey, we'll make beautiful babies. Yeah, let's do that, you know, but The his charisma and character is also undeniable because he has all these other women that are wooing him as well Yeah, so it's like there's somebody out there for everybody. Sure. Yeah. Yeah, it is interesting There's obviously a lot of things that he does wrong But there are some things that he doesn't do that are terrible, right? Like he sees this beast right this Rally's the town. Yeah, like well, we got to protect the people from this horrible beast. Yeah Misguided and obviously we we know because we know the ending that he wasn't really a beast at all He's this prince and this need to have this curse lifted But uh, there are there are a few redeeming qualities for Gaston always there isn't every one of us, right? Yeah, it's yeah It is interesting when you think about Disney villains where sometimes you can see those now There's other ones where they're not it was interesting I was having this discussion with some of the other day about some other Disney villains and but a lot of them do like Hades You know, like it's his job. It's what he does. He's supposed to be, you know, he's the god Hades. He's supposed to do the things that he is. He wants to capture Hercules and it's kind of his job. But he's also like pretty funny, you know, hysterical, very entertaining villain. One that doesn't, though, is the bad guy in Mulan. Oh, like he he's the Hun. Yeah.

47:19 I mean, he is just like there's nothing. They wrote that in a way that there's really nothing redeeming for him. He's there to conquer China. That's all he wants to do is take him over. He's just like purely the bad guy through and through, which is a little bit out of the norm for what Disney usually has. They usually have some redeeming qualities in these villains, but in that particular one, I couldn't really see any. Maybe tradition? Maybe. Maybe he's got tradition. I mean, I guess he turned to buck tradition, though, right? He wants to overthrow the emperor of China. He wants to conquer all of China. He certainly, I mean, I guess. He leads his people with passion and they follow him. Which could be terrifying. Wicked leaders can do. Wicked leaders certainly can do. We've seen that happen and it doesn't always turn out well. It does not. It can definitely be bad. So when we look at this continued journey, Maurice ends up trying to go to the fair, something like that, with his discovery and he ends up getting lost and coming upon this castle and obviously gets captured by the beast and then Belle's got to go save him. What do you think that she's facing in those moments of what might hold her back from doing it, why she decides to go do it, and then why she decides to make the deal that she makes to stay there and trade her life for her dad's? Gosh, it's such a great question. Three parts. So what what holds her back in the initial decision? Like is there anything that would what would the fear be that would hold somebody back? And what courage does she

48:49 have to find to go and then to trade herself? I think I think the courage to know that he's safe and you know, he isn't alone and I think that with the compassion that she holds for people just shows in the entire show that she's just incredibly compassionate and accepts people for who they are. And the thought of her dad being alone out wherever and not having an answer as to what happened to him is maybe what drove the courage. Gosh, you know, I think she's just courageous. For sure she is. Yeah, I think she's just like, why wouldn't I do this? Yeah, why wouldn't I do this? And I think also why why would she not just go do it herself? I think she in those moments obviously knows that Gaston and many other villagers don't think a lot of her dad. They're not gonna believe that he's really in trouble, right? So she doesn't spend the time or waste the time to go try to convince them to help her. She's like, well, look. If this is where we're at, I'm just gonna take the step. I'm just gonna go find myself. I can do it. I'm not gonna be afraid to do it. And then obviously I think it's probably an easy choice for anybody to trade their freedom for their significant other. Or not significant other, I guess their family member, their needy family member. Probably an easy decision for her to trade her life for her dad's. But then, where does courage and fear show up for her once that happens? So she's there, obviously her dad's set free, she's now... Committed to

50:22 being in this castle with this beast. What does that journey look like? Another one of my favorite lines from that movie is when Marie says I've lived a full life like you have your whole life ahead of you don't do this and I think in her mind she is so Comfortable in herself She's okay being alone. She knows that that doesn't feel scary to her is to be alone. I think that the one thing that has always been really difficult for me to understand is how she lets her dad go knowing that she's never gonna see him again. But maybe there was a small part of her that was like, I'll figure that part out when I get there. I'll cross that bridge when it comes.

51:08 What I'm gonna do is I'm gonna be present. I'm gonna do what I need to do right now. I'm gonna gather information. This is an inventor's mind, right? I'm gonna gather the information that's surrounding me. And then I'll make the decision about my dad later. So I almost wonder, just trying to be in the head of Belle, like, I'll just deal with what I've got. I'm going to use what I have. And then that decision is later. Maybe. No, I think that's interesting. Here's something that, like, I was rewatching Being the Beast last night with my five -year -old, which was so fun. She loves it. She loves Belle. I noticed, and once you said it, it reminded me, when Maurice is first there in the castle before the Beast comes, he comes upon... Cogsworth and Lumiere right right and he's not freaked out no no not even in the least he's just like oh this is interesting he's looking at Cogsworth he's like i'm wondering how this works like what's going on here right figure out Lumiere and then the little uh like Dog Ottoman comes up and he's like, all right, I'll put my feet up right and mrs. Potts comes and he's like, well great I'll drink some drink and then little chip. Yes on his mustache Mustache right like and he's just like fully embracing this experience that anybody else maybe in that village would have been like, oh no This is terrible. This is bad. This is new. I can't do this. So I have to be scared Yeah, and he embraces it and I think to your point I think bell does that same thing, right?

52:28 Obviously she's scared of the beast. I don't think there's any any doubt initially She is but not at the other furniture. She is curious. I don't know if there's a lot of fear. Okay, that's fair I think she's taken a bath. She's like what what is this this new? Let me think through this. Let me think through this and then with the furniture that's there She like embraces it just like her dad did. Oh, yeah, like oh, yeah i'll talk with these these alive furniture items like, okay great Yeah, i'll talk with you. Here's the dresser. Yes i'll get dressed from your innards and then she's like talking with them about you know, oh well I'm not gonna go do that with him if he's gonna act that way. So she's already confiding and building a relationship with this furniture that's alive, which is so interesting. And then she asks them for her trust. And then she says, do you trust me to go throughout the castle? Can I do that? And they're like, oh, we shouldn't do that, but you seem trustworthy.

53:16 So it's like they have this instant sense of... of relationship and I think you know it's an interesting contrast to when you look at Cogsworth and Lumiere right because Cogsworth is more of that I mean just like his joke was like hey if it's not broke don't fix it like yeah we're gonna do things the way they're supposed to we're gonna follow all the rules if the master says that we're doing it Lumiere's kind of like well hey there's a girl here be our guest right like we want you to be here and hang out yeah let's have fun you know that like uh I think And set the table, because we're going. Yes. And so you have that interesting contrast, too, in the way that those two kind of approach rules and relationships and stepping into something that's maybe different and scary. Lumiere still has this almost childlike hope. Yes. Right? Like, no, we're going to do this, and everything's going to work out. It's going to be fine, right? Belle and the master will will build a relationship and it's fine because we're all gonna be saved like he's got this this hope could it get any worse I think is maybe one of the themes of the movie is it's like Well, what else could go wrong here? Yeah, let's just let's just live in the moment. Yep.

54:20 Yeah, she's she's here Let's embrace this. Yes, interesting opportunity. And so as as the story goes and Belle and the beast start kind of connecting and building this relationship Walk us through kind of what lessons you have from the way that that kind of developed leading up to kind of the end of the story I I would see a lot of themes around I Don't want to I don't want to use the term forgiveness, but just acceptance sure Like you know what if if you don't want to do it my way then fine But you know and and maybe maybe not being stubborn I don't know. I think forgiveness could apply because look ultimately the beast captured and imprisoned her father and then imprisoned her even though you know she was in a room and not in the actual jail cell but like he still did something that was harmful and kept her from her dad and so I do think that there was some forgiveness that had to occur she had to be willing to forgive him for doing that and in so doing I mean, part of that's what enabled him to grow.

55:34 Because if she just continued holding that against him, they wouldn't have the opportunity to build a relationship. And the small glimmers of compassion from him. Like, in the most backwards way, like, you will come to dinner. And it's like, okay, well, he's inviting me to dinner, but he's making me go to dinner. Like, there's some compassion there, you know? So I think she was able to see through, just like Gaston. It's like she kind of went, yay. You're just a little different, but I don't dislike you. I just I'm not interested. Yeah, so patients Yeah, when she had some patients behind her to for sure she did and she had to be yeah If she wasn't be if she wasn't willing to be patient with him again, I think it would just fail They wouldn't build a relationship at all. No one things I heard one time is like, oh, what did the beast really do? Like he let her go access a library that he already had But here's what's interesting. I took a different look at it when I was again watching the movie again last night Because it's a stark contrast.

56:30 I mean what we have is this is the tale that was from I don't know when it was originally written, but a while ago I don't know 1500 something like that. I mean, I'm gonna get this wrong and then we have to correct it but it was a long time ago and the story was originally written in this idea of Gaston not wanting her to read a book was pretty common actually. That was actually more the norm at the time, right? Yeah, you can't think, you can't read, that's not allowed. Well, that was actually a pretty common thing. So if we look at it from that lens and say, not only is the beast willing to show her this, he's like, you can have all these, this whole thing is yours. That actually would be very different. And accepting.

57:12 Yeah. Like oh you want to read you want to have a mind of your own and do those things Absolutely. Yeah, like here is this for you so that you can do that i'm going to embrace that even though the rest of society might say no No, you don't you don't do that. He was willing to say that it is so that actually might have been a bigger deal And I think in today's world we would think it was right because now we're like, well, yeah So you've got a library in your letter walking in like big deal good for you, buddy Yeah, right. You got a huge library. Yeah, but actually maybe that was yeah, that was something. Yeah, so so as they go I mean, it's a classic song, right? Angela Lansbury singing, Eating the Beast, Taylor's Oldest Time, where they start to build this relationship and realize that there's more to each other than they had first thought and realized, and start to build this relationship. What do you think it took for the Beast to be able to tell her that she could go? was just thinking about this and I was I was gonna present the question to you is it was like at what point did he soften enough to go your freedom is more important than mine and she had given that to her dad and so that's it's a really beautiful thing that kind of carries throughout the movie that it was at one point he just decides like I love you more than I love my freedom so just go yeah you know It actually makes me think of a song in Frozen.

58:40 Okay. You know the song Fixer Upper? Okay, I'm not a big Frozen fan. My kids are too old. That's probably true. Oh, that makes sense. Well, there's a song in there where these little rock creatures are singing, and it's because one of the characters they've known for a long time, he's kind of a fixer upper, right? Okay. He's got some rough edges, right? He's the beast. Yeah, exactly, right? He's kind of, you know, he's kind of grumpy guy. And one of the things they say in there is that love is this strong force and it's powerful and strange. In that sense that love is the way that somebody can change because you can't force them to. And this powerful and strange characteristic is what allows them to do it. So when we think about love being this force that's powerful and strange and you can't force somebody to change, I think that's where ultimately this led to, right? Belle showed him kindness and that kindness spurred by love, not in this situation, it wasn't romantic love initially, right? Just showing him kindness and love in that way that helped him to make the change internally. And then when he did, you're exactly right, he realized that her freedom was more important than his, that it was okay if he had this curse. It was okay if ultimately they end up suffering from whatever the results of this curse were because her freedom was more important. I think it goes back to that sense of community that we've already kind of talked about, is it's like, man, it just feels so good to encourage somebody. It feels so good

1:00:10 to tell somebody that they're capable. It feels so good to point out to somebody else all of their great qualities. And as selfish as it is, it really does make me feel better. It makes me want to give more. And so... There's that and it's like my cup is full. I'm okay. Go. Yeah. Yeah It's uh So there's there's this quote that I found as well that I think it really fits this and want to get your take on it And actually it leads directly to what you talked about at the beginning with what this Enchantress was offering to him The quotes from Ryan holiday. It's called the obstacle is the way and it says the obstacle is The obstacle in the path becomes the path. Never forget, within every obstacle is an opportunity to improve our condition. So I love it. I'm gonna read again. The obstacle in the path becomes the path. Yes. Isn't that interesting? Yes. What's your take on that when it comes to this story? Okay, so the obstacle is the path. Yeah, the obstacle in the path becomes the path. Becomes the path. That's some really deep stuff, Ryan. Yeah. Gosh, I just feel like, are we constantly overcoming something? We're always revisiting, we're always rebuilding, we're always inventing, we're always creating, and maybe we're a little bit of alchemists in a way.

1:01:42 That it's like we have this alchemy in our life that we can do whatever we want with whatever's in front of us. And we can either fight it or play with it. Yeah. Yeah. And when we reframe it this way, that it's no longer an obstacle, that it actually is the path. I think that's what leads to every obstacle is an opportunity to improve our condition. Exactly like you said. So for the beast. the obstacle of becoming a beast was actually the pathway that he needed to walk to grow, to learn to love somebody else. And in learning to love Belle and being willing to free her and put somebody else's needs over his own was the path. That was the path. That's the growth he needed to have. That is the growth that he needed to have. So to flip the script on to you, so do we have to have that or if he would have accepted that? sooner would he have been at such a battle for so long? Yeah, I think it depends. I think the answer lies in the overarching story of our lives. Are there certain things where we can overcome them pretty quickly? Do we learn that lesson fast? Yes. Are there others where we're only gonna learn the lesson if the obstacle is bigger and it takes us longer? I think the answer is yes. I think we are all gonna face really big obstacles. that in the process of overcoming that obstacle is how we grow in ways we couldn't have otherwise. So I think it

1:03:12 just depends. So like this story is emblematic of like this one particular thing and yes, if the prince had just accepted her and brought her in, then it would have, but that's because that would be a lesson he didn't need to learn. He wouldn't have needed to learn the lesson of loving somebody else more than your own comfort. But he needed to learn it because he didn't know it. Emblematic of him turning her away. Now he's got to go through this process to really learn what that is and it becomes a big one. I think we can all relate that we all have very big obstacles that we at some point in time in our life face that require a lot more of us than smaller obstacles or things that are easier for us to overcome. I almost feel like if Gaston was the only option, could he have been her obstacle? Oh, it's it's so interesting that you say that because actually We had this discussion with joey myself on an episode of this podcast That if bell had shown him the kindness and love Could he have overcome would he have softened? Yeah, could he have overcome being the kind of egotistical? You know macho macho guy right a little bit narcissistic, right?

1:04:18 Because he actually had some good qualities because he had a lot of what the beast was going on He was just angry with himself or what? I don't know what it was that was going on with Gaston But it's like was that the practice run for her to deal with the beast. So interesting. Yeah. Yeah, it's a really good point Yeah, and I think it does show that you know when we are willing to take that time that people can change yeah people really are capable of change it has to come from them we can't force it uh but i think showing kindness and love to those people is the pathway to that happening i agree and maybe there was that familiarity of her relationship with gaston that gave her an opportunity to go i've done this before like this guy's not this Small potatoes. Yeah. Yeah. It totally, totally was. So it's like sometimes throughout life we have these obstacles that we approach and we go, oh, this is just a little bump, but then sometimes they're mountains. Yeah. Yeah. And we draw on the past experiences we had. We draw on what it was like for her father to be creative and curious, but also be rejected by other people.

1:05:23 Yeah. Right. What did she learn from seeing him do that and being okay of being free from the worrying about the judgment of others. What does she learn from Gaston, you know, pursuing her in her, you know, approaching that situation and then she draws on all those experiences to lead where she needs to, which is true love, right? I guess that's ultimately what they have is true love. Okay, so I'm gonna take us to our this or that segment, okay? Two ideas, I'm gonna give you two things and you just gotta say which one you choose, okay? Might be controversial, all right? And you gotta defend it, all right? No, they won't be bad. Village life or castle life? Oh, I'm such a people person. Oh, but I love those characters. They are the people Beach life, okay, okay Maurice's workshop or The library in the castle library in the castle. I'm a ferocious reader. Okay big reader. That'd be a good one then Yeah, okay dinner with Lumiere or tea with mrs. Potts These are tough Well, well said ah I Love a good time Lumiere. Yeah, I'm there.

1:06:34 Yeah look like it being in this song be our guest Like all that pomp and circumstance. I don't love it. How do you get up? ballroom dance or exploring the Forbidden West Wing I Am romanticize everything the ballroom dance. Yeah. Yeah, and the good one such a great scene to so well animated Yeah, and that movie like it's very beautiful. Yeah Early riser or night owl early riser. Okay same Solo road trip or group vacation. Yeah, these are solo Road trip really I would have guessed when you said your people person I was for sure like I was easy group vacation. No solo road trip. So sometimes sometimes you got to Yeah, you need that cathartic just clear your head. Yeah. Yep Okay, here's one that I think I know the answer now, but I'm gonna go with it anyways. Yellow ball gown or blue village dress? And the one that Belle wears initially when she's walking through the town or the ball gown when she's doing the ballroom dance. Can I have the dresser full of all of the garb? Done, done, you get it. I forget the dresser's name, but. Yeah, I want I want the drawers full of all of it. Okay, totally fair. Totally fair Okay, here's our rapid fire. So it's just the first thing to come to your mind. Okay favorite Disney movie Lion King Excellent. Yeah, okay another another from the Disney decade Disney Renaissance.

1:08:04 It's a great one favorite Disney song. I'll come back. Okay favorite Disney princess Favorite Disney hero or heroine? Aladdin. Okay, I like I thought you're gonna go back to Mulan, but I like Aladdin. I like that one. He's great. Favorite Disney villain? Hades. He's so good. He's so good. I love Hades. Okay, which enchanted object would you want as your best friend? Do you think about all the different characters that were there in the castle in Beauty and the Beast? She's so sassy. The Duster. Oh, yeah.

1:08:48 She's so sassy and just like a girl's girl. Okay, I love it. Yeah. Well, that's a great one. I was not expecting that one, but it's so good. Yes. Your ultimate dinner guest. My dad. Okay, that speaks a lot. Yeah, I love that. Okay, let's go back to favorite Disney song. Can I pick from Hannah Montana, The Climb? Is that a Disney song? Hannah Montana is definitely Disney. Yeah, I think she sings it in her Hannah Montana movie, right? Boy, I'm not a Hannah Montana like aficionado, but I'm here for it. I'm gonna I'm gonna say that one Okay, good. I have not I have not gotten that one as an answer yet. So I like it I like it because it's something different. It might not be right It might not be Disney, but I under the umbrella of her being Hannah Montana in the movie. Yeah, that's great Then yeah, perfect.

1:09:36 Okay. I love it Okay, so as we kind of think about kind of your closing reflection thoughts about Beauty and the Beast about this kind of journey that she went on, starting new chapters, fear, stepping into it. What are some closing reflections that you have? And then after that, we'll take us into our three actionable takeaways. Closing reflection, okay, closing reflections on? On the overall movie and kind of what you kind of learned from it, what it kind of teaches us overall that will kind of lead us into our three takeaways. Gosh, there are so many things that I take away from this movie. It's just rich with lessons and knowledge and wisdom. See things for deeper, look deeper. Don't settle on your first impression. I think that's really great.

1:10:27 Sometimes that first impression will keep us from doing something. When we too quickly make a judgment, that judgment's based in fear, and that fear keeps us from being courageous. Yeah, um, and and I think what we see from bel and from maris is their willingness to be curious their willingness to try something new even When they don't know the pathway forward and they don't know what the answer is going to be um in taking on a challenge Again with with courage to do it and with curiosity. Yes Okay, so what we like to give everybody at the end of every episode is three specific things that somebody can put into Action today or this week. Okay, so what are three actionable takeaways that you could give to somebody three actionable takeaways I'm gonna say Be present in your space and use what you have Okay, you have a lot of access to a number of things So you don't have to go out looking for anything Use use what you have.

1:11:34 I think Bell took her opportunity in the castle be friended these characters used what she had and was able to to really get what she wanted which was to have her family in that beautiful castle yeah yeah absolutely okay number two number two okay i thought about this and it had something to do with Gaston and the beast um and we kind of already covered it a little bit and now i'm drawing a blank on what what it was i think one of the things that i heard as we talked and also i think we talked about a little bit before which was um Kind of analyzing if it's the right step and then drawing on your past experiences both good and bad to learn. Yes, yes. Yes, using both to learn. Looking at your past and knowing, okay, this tool actually has carried me to this point.

1:12:29 And so drawing on your past and being able to use those opportunities and those lessons and wisdoms that you've. Come along the way use use your Gaston's to overcome your beasts. Yeah, right. Yeah, I like it. Yep um, and and then you know, one of the things we talked about before too was kind of the next thing would be Analyzing if you're doing it because the world wants you to or because it's authentically you yes So this is a big Maurice play, but also a very big beast play Yeah, so it's like he he was presenting himself in a way where that um matriarch or whoever she was that showed up at the door I can't remember but where she was saying hey you're not throwing you're not showing up authentically and I'm gonna push you there and so and then there was Maurice who was like this nutty professor who was like, I don't care what any of you guys think, I'm having a great time and I'm doing fun things.

1:13:23 And even with Bell going, I love to read and I don't care if you guys think that that's weird and I've got my nose buried in a book. So I think being truly authentic and authenticity always wins. Yeah. And then lastly, I think one of the things that once someone's taken the opportunity to be present, look at what they have access to, draw on their past experiences and decide if they're going to do something that's for the world or authentically themselves. I think the last thing is really just take the first step. Gotta take that first step. No matter how small, no matter how minute, that very first step starts the momentum. You've got to start it somewhere. So starting from that, analyzing and then starting.

1:14:04 And I think sometimes that step is just speaking out loud. This is my idea. This is what I believe. Speaking it into existence. Speaking it into existence. Well, thank you so much for being on the episode today. Thank you for having me. I really enjoyed talking with you about one of my favorites, Being the Beast. It's certainly a classic that tailors all the time. Yep. And we look forward to seeing your continued future success with Kenbury Capital, with all the great things you're doing for others in the South Valley Chamber and the community. Thank you, Ryan. As you leave this conversation, remember that yes, the past can hurt and you can either run from it or you can learn from it. So here's to learning and finding joy in the journey. See you real soon.